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First post, by Half-Saint

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I went dumpster diving today and came back with all of this plus a Logitech Pilot serial mouse and a 3.5" floppy which I wouldn't normally take but this one was clean and not mounted in a case so I just picked it up. I also got two socket 478 CPUs: a Celeron 2.4GHz and a Pentium 4 1.5GHz. The fun part will be testing all of this 😁

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Reply 1 of 39, by Skyscraper

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That Soyo board is great if it is what it looks like.

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VIA VPX chipset but this board is not bad at all.

It supports all socket 7 CPUs exept the K6-X+. I guess they could work aswell but I have not tried it.
It supports 66, 75 and 83 mhz fsb.
83mhz with 41.5 mhz PCI is totally stable at least with the hardware I have used but if its not you can force PCI to run at a lower speed with jumpers.
It can only cache 64mb memory if you dont use a K6-3 so keep that in mind.
I played Unreal Gold at 800*600 with this board, a K6-2@500 and a Voodoo 2. It was smooth enough 😀 25-60 fps .

If you cant find the latest bios for it and want to use a K6-2/3 just send me a pm.

New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 2 of 39, by Half-Saint

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Skyscraper wrote:

That Soyo board is great if it is what it looks like.

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Yep, that's exactly what it is. I can't find a jumper setting for 83MHz, just 75.

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Reply 3 of 39, by Skyscraper

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Its not documented on the board or in the manual.

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83mhz should be JP10 2-3, JP11 1-2, JP12 1-2.

The other table was for a Asus board which used the same jumper settings but mirrored 😀
My jumper setting notes are a bit chaotic.

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New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 6 of 39, by Skyscraper

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On the topic of dumpster diving

Im in love with one of my latest finds

I found a Fujitsu Siemens laptop. Old but in good shape from the looks of it.
It turned out to be an Amilo a1630 from 2004. No powerbrick and it used a 4pin! dc-plug so I diddnt have one that fits.
It turned out it needed 20v 8A = 160W 😁 I can understand why they decided they needed a 4 pin plug.
I found an used FSP brick with the correct voltage and plug but only 7.5A for 10 euro.
The correct 20v 8A power brick is 100 - 150 euro new so the FSP brick was pretty much the only choice.

I got the power brick today and it works fine. After reinstalling Windows XP it became quite obvious why the laptop was discarded.
Random crashes and reboots as soon as the CPU was utilized by anything more taxing than Solitaire.
I downloaded speedfan and as I thought the CPU temperature was 60C idle and 90C+ load .
I did some Internet searches and it seemed this laptop was plauged with heat problems even as new.
Perhaps the heat issues are the reason the laptop looks like new and the battery is in perfect condition. It has probably never been used or at least not much 😁

I went on to dismantle the laptop. No dust at all, it was perfectly clean.
Then I removed the CPU heatpipe cooler and it was not very strange that the laptop was overheating.
10 year old cheap cooling paste everywhere exept on the core, and the heatsink was not flat at all 😁
After lapping the heat sink and applying new paste the laptop works perfectly and dosnt even rev the fans much when I run Prime95!

Exept the poor application of cooling paste and the uneven heatsink the Amilo a1630 is very well built.

The specs are pretty crazy for beeing a laptop that soon will be 10 years old.

CPU Athlon 64 3700+ s754 2.4 ghz @ 1.5V
Memory 2*1gb DDR (Installed by me. 2*256 when I found it.)
GPU: Radeon 9700 Mobile
HDD 80gb IDE
DVD-RW
WiFi
5.1 sound with SPDIF!
Screen 15" 1280*800

I will make a thread with pics and benchmarks and stuff for this computer later since it probably will be one of the systems I will use the most.

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New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 7 of 39, by Half-Saint

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Nice finds! I like the 486 board, but it seems like the kbd controller is missing...

It appears that you're right. Maybe the previous owner used this board for desoldering practice.. I wonder, if anything else is missing as well. Ah yes, the RTC chip (Motorola MC146818B) is missing as well. They just didn't bother cleaning the pin holes.

Does anyone know, if I can use MC146818P instead?

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Reply 8 of 39, by JaNoZ

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The DFI board looks nice and tidy with a PLCC flash and dimm sockets, but the 430VX does only support dimm EDO right no SDRAM?
Or does it? also good to have 4pci slots.
That ETEQ chipset is a fast or faster than in intel VX memory performance wise?

Where do you get to dumpster dive? i myself go diving in the dumpster of the company i work for.
I find sometime some nice 486 systems and many socket 7 but all brand like gateway dell etc so no clone motherboards.
Last best of my finds were a matrox parhelia 256MB agp, matrox P690 ddr2 pci and a nice white case with burners and a msi socket 754 NF3 with A64 3500+ and 2x512mb ddr1 and a wifi card and 6800GT agp. no disks anymore though.
Some IPC's with small isa small board 486 am5x86 on them, and shitloads of P3 systems which i take apart for parts.

Reply 9 of 39, by Skyscraper

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JaNoZ wrote:
That ETEQ chipset is a fast or faster than in intel VX memory performance wise? […]
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That ETEQ chipset is a fast or faster than in intel VX memory performance wise?

Where do you get to dumpster dive? i myself go diving in the dumpster of the company i work for.
I find sometime some nice 486 systems and many socket 7 but all brand like gateway dell etc so no clone motherboards.
Last best of my finds were a matrox parhelia 256MB agp, matrox P690 ddr2 pci and a nice white case with burners and a msi socket 754 NF3 with A64 3500+ and 2x512mb ddr1 and a wifi card and 6800GT agp. no disks anymore though.
Some IPC's with small isa small board 486 am5x86 on them, and shitloads of P3 systems which i take apart for parts.

The ETEQ chipset is a lie 😀 VIA Apollo VPX in disguise

I used to search the dumpsters at the company I used to work for.
The company I work for now dosnt have computers in the dumpsters, or at least not often.
But in Sweden its mandatory to sort your electronics in special dumpsters in every "garbage room"*
*No fitting english word since you just dump all the trash on the street 😉

Im also intrested in where Half-Saint finds all his stuff 😀
I never find anything that old anymore.

New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 10 of 39, by JaNoZ

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At our work we have a big scrap bin for leftover electronic parts from our factory and old electronic waste, it is not mixed with office garbage.
People should not trow out pc equipment in their own dumpsters but leave on recycle depo's

Reply 11 of 39, by Half-Saint

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Ah the local sorting center (basically just a lot of containers for diff. kinds of stuff) there's also a container for electronic waste. That's where most of the stuff ends up. I go there about once a week for treasure hunting 😉 I'm on good terms with the guys who work there so they let me take whatever I need.

UPDATE:
Both Pentium boards POST but I haven't tested beyond that. 486 board doesn't post yet but that could be to incorrect jumper settings. I'll test that later...

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Reply 13 of 39, by Logistics

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In my area (Silicon Valley) we have days for recycling electronics at specific locations. I've considered parking nearby with a sign saying I buy the stuff. Its better than the tax write-off they would get.

Reply 14 of 39, by vetz

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Logistics wrote:

In my area (Silicon Valley) we have days for recycling electronics at specific locations. I've considered parking nearby with a sign saying I buy the stuff. Its better than the tax write-off they would get.

Heh, you sure they wouldn't get the police on your neck for soliciting their "customers"?

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Reply 15 of 39, by Logistics

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Does someone donating electronics for a tax write-off, count as a customer? I think as long as I'm not on the same property, which tends to be a school, they can't do anything.

Reply 17 of 39, by JaNoZ

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I always say, if no one asks you to stay out in the first place.... its ok, if no one knows and no one asks.
If they have a problem with it, tey will let you know.
You will have to have some balls and some excuse.

I acually get a small rush, but no one cares i take some out of those bins. People have too much things on their mind.

Reply 18 of 39, by Half-Saint

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Looks like the chips are not missing on that 486. Unfortunately it doesn't boot. I get the startup screen but no RAM count and can't access the BIOS either. It resets itself after a while and then just keeps showing the screen with VGA info.

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