Reply 1 of 272, by smeezekitty
wrote:What cards have you guys used that work reliably on old boards? I have a card with a VIA controller and it isn't even detected by 440BX or AMD 750. It does work on newer chipsets like KT266 though.
I am surprised even on my 486 board both opti 82c261 and VIA vt83c572 are both picked up. I cannot verify functionality because Win95 has terrible USB support
but once I upgrade the RAM I can test it. A P2/P3 era chipset should have no problems with USB cards
Reply 2 of 272, by keropi
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Back when I tested usb2.0 cards on my ss7 machine I had better luck with ALi cards... Opti were OK too.
VIA ones were a hit-and-miss and NEC cards (that are supposed to be quality ones) never worked on my ss7 machine
Reply 3 of 272, by Mau1wurf1977
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The onboard USB ports always worked well with Windows 98 SE.
What is the benefit of using USB card? Do they work in Windows 95?
Reply 4 of 272, by Zup
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wrote:The onboard USB ports always worked well with Windows 98 SE.
What is the benefit of using USB card? Do they work in Windows 95?
- Upgrade USB 1.x computers to USB 2.0.
- Having more USB ports available
- Some firewire cards are firewire/USB combo cards, so people using firewire may want to have the USB part working.
I had some VIA based USB and USB/firewire cards. They were reliable, but keep in mind that you must install the VIA drivers always (even on XP).
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Reply 5 of 272, by GeorgeMan
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wrote:What cards have you guys used that work reliably on old boards? I have a card with a VIA controller and it isn't even detected by 440BX or AMD 750. It does work on newer chipsets like KT266 though.
You need a card with NEC chip, not VIA. Some old computers refused to boot with the card installed and some others didn't recognise the card at all. 😊
I bought 3 different VIA based pci cards from ebay before finding out...
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Reply 6 of 272, by F2bnp
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I think I have one with ALi, but I couldn't get it to work on a Alladdin V motherboard.
Reply 7 of 272, by gerwin
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I would also have preferred a NEC branded PCI USB 2.0 card, but back then I got a VIA model.
It always worked fine on a Soyo i440BX motherboard though, with windows 98 SE installed. Chipset is VIA VT6212L. PCB date is Week 32 2007.
Updating the MP3 player got a lot faster.
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Reply 8 of 272, by swaaye
I just want to use it for storage. USB 1.1 is so slow. Can you guys post photos of your cards that do work on 1997-1999 boards?
The card that I have is some ultra cheapie with a VIA VT6212L but it simply doesn't work on chipsets before 2000-2001. My guess is the controller isn't the problem, the card's construction is.
Reply 9 of 272, by GeorgeMan
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Just buy an ultra cheapie card from ebay that is guaranteed to have a nec chip. 😀
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Reply 10 of 272, by swaaye
I thought the problem might be PCI 2.2 requirement but AMD 751 supports PCI 2.2. 440BX is definitely PCI 2.1 however.
The NEC cards seem to specify PCI 2.1 support so I will grab one of those and try it.
Reply 11 of 272, by gerwin
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This is the one I was talking about, Which served me well when attached to a SY-6BA+III i440BX Motherboard.
A totally unremarkable piece of hardware...
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Reply 12 of 272, by GeorgeMan
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wrote:This is the one I was talking about, Which served me well when attached to a SY-6BA+III i440BX Motherboard.
A totally unremarkable piece of hardware...
It's an old design, probably it was still compatible with PCI 2.1 back then.
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Reply 13 of 272, by Half-Saint
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Reply 14 of 272, by feipoa
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http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEC-4-1-port-PCI-High- … e332274e&_uhb=1
I have had the best luck with NEC-based USB 2.0 cards on 440BX. Mine look like the one in this ebay link.
Reply 15 of 272, by swaaye
wrote:I have at least 4 cards with different controllers but no drivers - would have to search for them online.
If you want, I can test them tomorrow just tell me which platform you want me to try them on 😀
Any boards from 1999 or earlier. I am using an Abit 440BX board and a ASUS AMD 750 board.
Reply 16 of 272, by swaaye
wrote:http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEC-4-1-port-PCI-High- … e332274e&_uhb=1
I have had the best luck with NEC-based USB 2.0 cards on 440BX. Mine look like the one in this ebay link.
I've ordered a Belkin card with a NEC chip. It claims PCI 2.1 support so hopefully it will work.
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Reply 18 of 272, by zyga64
wrote:I just want to use it for storage. USB 1.1 is so slow. Can you guys post photos of your cards that do work on 1997-1999 boards?
The card that I have is some ultra cheapie with a VIA VT6212L but it simply doesn't work on chipsets before 2000-2001. My guess is the controller isn't the problem, the card's construction is.
I have exactly the same card. Working without problems on Intel SE440BX-2 (third slot - counting from AGP). System is Windows 98SE
Driver from here: http://download.viatech.com/DownloadDriverSvl?driver_id=2105
1) VLSI SCAMP /286@20 /4MB /CL-GD5422 /CMI8330
2) i420EX /486DX33 /16MB /TGUI9440 /YMF718+GUS
3) i430FX /K6-2@400 /64MB /Rage XL PCI /ES1370+ALS100
4) i440BX /P!!!750 /256MB /MX440 /SBLive!+Vibra16s
5) iG31 /E8400 /4GB /X1950GT /HDA
Reply 19 of 272, by swaaye
wrote:I have exactly the same card. Working without problems on Intel SE440BX-2 (third slot - counting from AGP). System is Windows 98SE
Driver from here: http://download.viatech.com/DownloadDriverSvl?driver_id=2105
Interesting. I couldn't get either board I tested it on to even detect that the card was installed. I did try every PCI slot too. Maybe the card is broken.
The thing is - in the past I had another one of these and I remember having this problem then too. But it worked ok in a KT266A board that I had at the time.