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Reply 25921 of 27499, by darry

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Not sure it qualifies as purely retro, but I putzed around Windows 98 and its included DOS 7.1 in a KVM powered QEMU VM.

I actually got PCI passthrough to work, to a point, in pure DOS on a Voodoo 3, but there are still lots of unresolved issues.

The main trick (for me at least) to actually get video output in DOS and Windows 98 GUI, is to force a VGA re-initialization right after the virtual POST . I adapted this [1] into a onliner that I added to autoexec.bat and I was greeted by working video output. Presumably Seabios does not init a passed through PCI VGA card for some reason (I am setting X-VGA to true for the Voodoo 3's hostdev and had tries fruitlessly specifying the path to a VGA ROM dump in the BAR definition). A Promise Ultra133's normall

Unfortunately it is very slow in Doom (maybe 10FPS or less) and I lose Keyboard and mouse once Doom launches .

The slowness might be due to PCIE/PCI issues.

The keyboard and mouse issues might be something
fixable through various possie means

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Re: Single board computer 386-sx40 skipping VGA BIOS?

Reply 25922 of 27499, by vsharun

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Industrial time!
FS-97A CPU Board & PCI-7S base board (2xPICMG 1.0 ISA+PCI, 4 PCI, 2ISA slots)
Socket 479 Celeron/Pentium M board (with overclocking on industrial mobo!)
Love those bright red voltage indicators 😀
Another milestone completed - PentiumM for desktop with fully working ISA via ICH4/ITE 8888F

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Reply 25923 of 27499, by Law212

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smtkr wrote on 2023-11-17, 01:15:

Which resolution are you trying to play? Voodoo 3 should be plenty for Q3 unless you are trying to drive a higher resolution.

I tried at both 800 x 640 and 1024 x 768

Reply 25924 of 27499, by Putas

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Law212 wrote on 2023-11-17, 16:51:

I tried at both 800 x 640 and 1024 x 768

If you use the later patches, you might not want them. 3dfx optimizations were dropped around version 1.16 IIRC.

Reply 25926 of 27499, by OSkar000

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Installed Office 97 on my most recent project. The installation has some attitude issues when it comes to multi display setup...

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Office works quite nice though.

I'm trying to keep all software and hardware around the very first Pentium II period . The plan is a really powerful workstation running Windows NT4.

More about the hardware later 😀

Reply 25928 of 27499, by PD2JK

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Tomek TRV wrote on 2023-11-17, 20:32:

I finally bought and install L2 cache in my Tulip TC40 machine and it is working. Now I have to read about modding this board to use 3,3V processors.

Are you sure the board needs a modification?
It might do 3,3V CPUs when you set the jumpers accordingly.
A regular DX4 is 3,3V only. I also observed a voltage regulator near the P8-P9 connectors, so maybe...

https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/tulip- … s-tc40#expchips
(please see the last image)

i386 16 ⇒ i486 DX4 100 ⇒ Pentium MMX 200 ⇒ Athlon Orion 700 | TB 1000 ⇒ AthlonXP 1700+ ⇒ Opteron 165 ⇒ Dual Opteron 856

Reply 25929 of 27499, by ubiq

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darry wrote on 2023-11-17, 09:17:
Not sure it qualifies as purely retro, but I putzed around Windows 98 and its included DOS 7.1 in a KVM powered QEMU VM. […]
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Not sure it qualifies as purely retro, but I putzed around Windows 98 and its included DOS 7.1 in a KVM powered QEMU VM.

I actually got PCI passthrough to work, to a point, in pure DOS on a Voodoo 3, but there are still lots of unresolved issues.

The main trick (for me at least) to actually get video output in DOS and Windows 98 GUI, is to force a VGA re-initialization right after the virtual POST . I adapted this [1] into a onliner that I added to autoexec.bat and I was greeted by working video output. Presumably Seabios does not init a passed through PCI VGA card for some reason (I am setting X-VGA to true for the Voodoo 3's hostdev and had tries fruitlessly specifying the path to a VGA ROM dump in the BAR definition). A Promise Ultra133's normall

Unfortunately it is very slow in Doom (maybe 10FPS or less) and I lose Keyboard and mouse once Doom launches .

The slowness might be due to PCIE/PCI issues.

The keyboard and mouse issues might be something
fixable through various possie means

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Re: Single board computer 386-sx40 skipping VGA BIOS?

This sounds pretty neat, but I don't know enough about what you're doing to understand what you're talking about. Are you using a VM to control retro HW?

Reply 25930 of 27499, by Tomek TRV

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PD2JK wrote on 2023-11-17, 21:55:
Are you sure the board needs a modification? It might do 3,3V CPUs when you set the jumpers accordingly. A regular DX4 is 3,3V o […]
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Tomek TRV wrote on 2023-11-17, 20:32:

I finally bought and install L2 cache in my Tulip TC40 machine and it is working. Now I have to read about modding this board to use 3,3V processors.

Are you sure the board needs a modification?
It might do 3,3V CPUs when you set the jumpers accordingly.
A regular DX4 is 3,3V only. I also observed a voltage regulator near the P8-P9 connectors, so maybe...

https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/tulip- … s-tc40#expchips
(please see the last image)

Photo 2 - board with voltage regulator, photo 3 - without voltage regulator. Interesting which voltage regulator should I use? I also see some more surface mounted elements which does not exist on my board so it will not be so easy.

Reply 25931 of 27499, by Horun

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Messing with some socket 478 boards. Trying to find one that will run a Willamette core but having troubles for the P4 Willamette Core: Aiming for the Stars topic...
The one ECS 848P-A V.2 has a bios that did support it according to website archive but mine has a later bios which does not.
Maybe the Gigabyte GA_8iPE1000-G will as per it's CPU support but hate to tear down something that is already working well.....
FWIW I need to post the 848P-A manuals and bios that I have as they are not on TRW or many other places.....

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 25932 of 27499, by stef80

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Two more cards saved from e-waste, cleaned and tested with new coolers.
* Gainward GeForce3 Ti 200 GS 128MB

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* Asus X850XT PE AGP

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I may refurbish old cooler later (smoker's household unfortunately). Memory chips were so impregnated with "oil" from old thermal pads that zalman porcupines would not stick. Also needs one 10uF 25V SMD capacitor, but works as it is. Zalman vs stock cooler is like ~30°C difference.

Reply 25933 of 27499, by Bruno128

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PcBytes wrote on 2023-09-29, 00:43:

NFS5 crashes by hanging at the splash screen

Downgrade to a more compatible forceware version (not newer than 61.76), install official 3.5 patch.

Now playing: Red Faction on 2003 Acrylic build


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Reply 25934 of 27499, by PcBytes

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I've since sold the board but I'll probably try it on a Chaintech CT-9BJA0, since it's also 845 SDR.

I think I had tried 45.23 first (or something lower than 71 for sure) and while NFS worked, I had choppy quality on FR2.

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Reply 25935 of 27499, by konc

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Lately I was experiencing a lot of weird behavior from hardware, like HDDs failing to spin up occasionally, graphics cards with trembling text, motherboards showing no video on power on... Last night it was narrowed down to the (knowingly) super cheap and expendable PSU I was using for bench testing, although it delivers correct voltages even under load. Thankfully before throwing away perfectly working hardware.

I'm no PSU expert, but after opening it up it looks like it's not worth bothering, correct?

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Reply 25936 of 27499, by PcBytes

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That goes straight into the compactor. Nothing in there is worth salvaging.

Unless you have a better PSU that has a rusty case and can be fit inside this one's casing, but I wouldn't bother personally.

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Reply 25937 of 27499, by konc

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PcBytes wrote on 2023-11-18, 10:45:

That goes straight into the compactor. Nothing in there is worth salvaging.

Unless you have a better PSU that has a rusty case and can be fit inside this one's casing, but I wouldn't bother personally.

Ah thanks, so in the bin it goes with no remorse. It looked like being very-very bad to me too, but I needed a confirmation as I don't really know how to judge PSUs.

Reply 25938 of 27499, by vutt

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I upgraded my NAS op system from ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04 LTS. Result: My Win98SE box could not connect to my read only transfer share for v1SMB retro boxes.
It looks like distros are killing v1 protocol from default configurations.

So adding this section did the trick for me:

    client min protocol = NT1
server min protocol = NT1
ntlm auth = yes
lanman auth = yes

Reply 25939 of 27499, by DerBaum

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vutt wrote on 2023-11-18, 14:30:
I upgraded my NAS op system from ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04 LTS. Result: My Win98SE box could not connect to my read only transfer sh […]
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I upgraded my NAS op system from ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04 LTS. Result: My Win98SE box could not connect to my read only transfer share for v1SMB retro boxes.
It looks like distros are killing v1 protocol from default configurations.

So adding this section did the trick for me:

    client min protocol = NT1
server min protocol = NT1
ntlm auth = yes
lanman auth = yes

I had a similar problem after the update to windows 10.
I could not find my Thecus NAS (and my retro PCs) anymore.
Win10(11) disables SMB1.0 by default
After enabling SMB in Win10 it worked again.

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