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Reply 26540 of 27541, by iraito

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Minutemanqvs wrote on 2024-01-26, 12:49:

What are the specs written on your RAM chips, so we can see what their theoretical maximum speed is?

Here's the ram and also the final result.

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Reply 26541 of 27541, by Trashbytes

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iraito wrote on 2024-01-26, 14:17:
Minutemanqvs wrote on 2024-01-26, 12:49:

What are the specs written on your RAM chips, so we can see what their theoretical maximum speed is?

Here's the ram and also the final result.

looks like 7 nano second ram so 143Mhz, 6ns is 166Mhz and 5.5ns is 183Mhz, this is of course their rated speed but in theory with good cooling should be able to run a bit higher.

These speed match up with the Vram speeds of the different models, its possible to find V3 3000 cards with 5.5Ns ram not sure if any V3 2000 had it.

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Reply 26542 of 27541, by iraito

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-01-26, 14:21:
iraito wrote on 2024-01-26, 14:17:
Minutemanqvs wrote on 2024-01-26, 12:49:

What are the specs written on your RAM chips, so we can see what their theoretical maximum speed is?

Here's the ram and also the final result.

looks like 7 nano second ram so 143Mhz, 6ns is 166Mhz this is of course their rated speed but in theory with good cooling should be able to run a bit higher.

Yep looks like it, should the overclock to 166 still be relatively safe ?

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Reply 26543 of 27541, by Trashbytes

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iraito wrote on 2024-01-26, 14:24:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-01-26, 14:21:
iraito wrote on 2024-01-26, 14:17:

Here's the ram and also the final result.

looks like 7 nano second ram so 143Mhz, 6ns is 166Mhz this is of course their rated speed but in theory with good cooling should be able to run a bit higher.

Yep looks like it, should the overclock to 166 still be relatively safe ?

Depends on the ram itself, I would increase it in 5Mhz increments till it starts to artifact and then dial it back by 1Mhz steps till its stable, good quality 7ns Vram should be able to handle a decent speed bump, might even get to 166 stable.
You can then do the same with the Core, that cooler is silly levels of overkill but at least the core will be nice and cool !

Im pretty careful when OCing my Voodoo cards, they are too damn expensive to replace so normally I give them a small bump and leave it at that you really dont get a lot out of the extra speed.

Reply 26545 of 27541, by Trashbytes

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rasz_pl wrote on 2024-01-26, 14:30:

Other than ram 3dfx also overvolted higher numbered models https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7rpPmhykY

Interesting topic for the brave out there willing to mess around with their cards 🤣, im guessing it not really something the average joe would want to do.

Reply 26546 of 27541, by iraito

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Sounds like I will try going up to 3000 levels, by reading around it seems like every 2000 with my ram can go up to that with no issue whatsoever, then they start artifacting at around 183hz

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Reply 26547 of 27541, by appiah4

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I finally found the time to have one last go at fixing this A-Trend ATC-1762 VLB motherboard.

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I started trying to get it working exactly one year ago, and got it done on the anniversary! It was a long repair that saw me having to replace the KBC socket and bodge a lot of traces because battery leakage completely ate them. Then I had to replace tantalum decoupling capacitors that decided to end their lives with a bang. Then the BIOS chip on the board turned out to be from another board entirely, so I replaced that. Finally, I had to invest into an oscilloscope to figure out my final keyboard related issues were due to a defective 7406 and replace it. All in all, it was an adventure, but I like a happy ending. It will never look as good as new, but this spaghetti mess is my only spare VLB board and a keeper 😀

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Reply 26549 of 27541, by TheMobRules

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appiah4 wrote on 2024-01-26, 19:37:

I finally found the time to have one last go at fixing this A-Trend ATC-1762 VLB motherboard.

Nice fix! VLB boards are probably my favorite along with EISA due to all the quirks.

By the way, you may want to tin those exposed traces, otherwise the bare copper may start to corrode.

Reply 26550 of 27541, by overdrive333

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Voodoo 3 1000 conversion to 2000.
heatsink, voltmod (2.2v->2.7v. However, 2.5v must be enough) , bios.

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Reply 26551 of 27541, by iraito

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overdrive333 wrote on 2024-01-27, 10:57:

Voodoo 3 1000 conversion to 2000.
heatsink, voltmod (2.2v->2.7v. However, 2.5v must be enough) , bios.

Did you solder the extra mem yourself? i thought a velocity with more than 8mb of ram was never officially released.

EDIT: Are V3 1000 another thing unrelated to velocity cards? damn 3dfx what a mess they did.

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Reply 26552 of 27541, by Demetrio

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This morning I went to a pick-up point to get the italian version of Half-Life 2: Raising The Bar

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I bought it from a local seller for 40€.

Considering that the only insertion I saw, other than this one, is on Amazon for over 300€ and that the italian version is very rare, I think I made a good deal 🙂

Reply 26553 of 27541, by Horun

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Demetrio wrote on 2024-01-27, 12:49:
This morning I went to a pick-up point to get the italian version of Half-Life 2: Raising The Bar […]
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This morning I went to a pick-up point to get the italian version of Half-Life 2: Raising The Bar

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I bought it from a local seller for 40€.

Considering that the only insertion I saw, other than this one, is on Amazon for over 300€ and that the italian version is very rare, I think I made a good deal 🙂

Oh yes, some language versions of some games are very rare. Nice find for you !

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 26554 of 27541, by Horun

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appiah4 wrote on 2024-01-26, 19:37:

I finally found the time to have one last go at fixing this A-Trend ATC-1762 VLB motherboard.
I started trying to get it working exactly one year ago, and got it done on the anniversary! It was a long repair that saw me having to replace the KBC socket and bodge a lot of traces because battery leakage completely ate them. Then I had to replace tantalum decoupling capacitors that decided to end their lives with a bang. Then the BIOS chip on the board turned out to be from another board entirely, so I replaced that. Finally, I had to invest into an oscilloscope to figure out my final keyboard related issues were due to a defective 7406 and replace it. All in all, it was an adventure, but I like a happy ending. It will never look as good as new, but this spaghetti mess is my only spare VLB board and a keeper 😀

Good job !

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 26555 of 27541, by Trashbytes

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iraito wrote on 2024-01-27, 11:15:
overdrive333 wrote on 2024-01-27, 10:57:

Voodoo 3 1000 conversion to 2000.
heatsink, voltmod (2.2v->2.7v. However, 2.5v must be enough) , bios.

Did you solder the extra mem yourself? i thought a velocity with more than 8mb of ram was never officially released.

EDIT: Are V3 1000 another thing unrelated to velocity cards? damn 3dfx what a mess they did.

There were a number of Voodoo3 1000 cards with 16Mb and they are separate from the V100 8Mb and V200* 12Mb Velocity cards, V3 1000 is just a low cost Voodoo3 2000, its got lower clocks 125/125 to the V3 2000 and no heatsink and uses lower cost parts, uses double the memory ICs but they are low cost SGram

If you throw a heatsink and fan on a 1000 it should hit 2000 speeds with little issue.

*This one never saw release officially.

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Reply 26556 of 27541, by Ensign Nemo

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Horun wrote on 2024-01-28, 03:58:
Demetrio wrote on 2024-01-27, 12:49:
This morning I went to a pick-up point to get the italian version of Half-Life 2: Raising The Bar […]
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This morning I went to a pick-up point to get the italian version of Half-Life 2: Raising The Bar

hl2-raising-the-bar-it.jpeg

I bought it from a local seller for 40€.

Considering that the only insertion I saw, other than this one, is on Amazon for over 300€ and that the italian version is very rare, I think I made a good deal 🙂

Oh yes, some language versions of some games are very rare. Nice find for you !

Isn't that a book?

Reply 26557 of 27541, by Ensign Nemo

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Demetrio wrote on 2024-01-27, 12:49:
This morning I went to a pick-up point to get the italian version of Half-Life 2: Raising The Bar […]
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This morning I went to a pick-up point to get the italian version of Half-Life 2: Raising The Bar

hl2-raising-the-bar-it.jpeg

I bought it from a local seller for 40€.

Considering that the only insertion I saw, other than this one, is on Amazon for over 300€ and that the italian version is very rare, I think I made a good deal 🙂

The used book market is often worse than the eBay market for vintage computers. Your book is listed at $465 on Canadian Amazon. I sometimes see guys in thrift stores that are scanning all of the books with their phone to see if they can scalp them. That really ticks me off because a lot of low income people shop at thrift stores to save money.

Reply 26558 of 27541, by Trashbytes

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Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-01-28, 04:39:
Demetrio wrote on 2024-01-27, 12:49:
This morning I went to a pick-up point to get the italian version of Half-Life 2: Raising The Bar […]
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This morning I went to a pick-up point to get the italian version of Half-Life 2: Raising The Bar

hl2-raising-the-bar-it.jpeg

I bought it from a local seller for 40€.

Considering that the only insertion I saw, other than this one, is on Amazon for over 300€ and that the italian version is very rare, I think I made a good deal 🙂

The used book market is often worse than the eBay market for vintage computers. Your book is listed at $465 on Canadian Amazon. I sometimes see guys in thrift stores that are scanning all of the books with their phone to see if they can scalp them. That really ticks me off because a lot of low income people shop at thrift stores to save money.

Scalpers are a fucking plague, not sure how you would go about stopping such activity either.

Reply 26559 of 27541, by Horun

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Ok call me brain dead but went looking for a NOS 4x Sanyo scsi cdrom bought 10-20 years ago, found it. Inside the bigger box it was in, found a few adapters covered by anti-static foam.
Had totally forgotten about them, some with felt pen notes on their backs from 1999-2000. I seriously had forgotten about these after moving last time.
And yes my garage is a dumpster of it's own kind (maybe should have posted this in the "dumpster find" topic 🤣.....
here is pictures of most what was under that cdrom....and picture of the cdrom was looking for (sorta knew where it was, just not was under it 🙁 ).
And a bag from Fry's dated 3/15/2000 for a P67SVA (do not ask me about that, have no clue what it was). And NO did not get around to installing the cdrom... got side-tracked 🤣

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