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Reply 6020 of 27454, by oeuvre

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Thanks! I am pretty sure it came stock from the ebay seller and it's a Celeron 1GHz 128MB RAM so those look like stock from the factory to me. I ordered the sound card and PCI gfx card for it. It's an IBM NetVista 6347-K3U

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Reply 6021 of 27454, by xplus93

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Farcry was running poorly so I decided to run 3Dmark. From what i've seen this is a typical score for my rig.

P4 EE 3.4 478/6800GT OC AGP

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XPS B1000r|PIII-1GHz|512MB|GF2 PRO 64MB|SB Live!
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Reply 6022 of 27454, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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xplus93 wrote:

Farcry was running poorly so I decided to run 3Dmark. From what i've seen this is a typical score for my rig.

P4 EE 3.4 478/6800GT OC AGP

A bit low isn't it? My FX5950 rig scores 3500ish and I know for a fact the 6800GT has roughly twice the performance under DX9 so I would expect it to score high 6k low 7k.

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Reply 6023 of 27454, by bjwil1991

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I don't know if a car counts or not, but, I was driving down the freeway and my driver side window mysteriously opened up by itself and I have no window switch since it corroded, and apparently, I can open and close the window with my hand, which is not supposed to do that. I know for a fact I lost the window motor and regulator.

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Reply 6024 of 27454, by xplus93

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
xplus93 wrote:

Farcry was running poorly so I decided to run 3Dmark. From what i've seen this is a typical score for my rig.

P4 EE 3.4 478/6800GT OC AGP

A bit low isn't it? My FX5950 rig scores 3500ish and I know for a fact the 6800GT has roughly twice the performance under DX9 so I would expect it to score high 6k low 7k.

Probably not the best base system. It's an OEM build. Also, my CPU has been through hell and back, literally, so i'm not sure how well it performs. It is low on the spectrum for my config though. I love dell, but the cooling in this system is pretty dangerous. It's a small passive with two giant fans and a shroud pulling air through it. Later models fixed it, but those are PCIe and 775. One of these days i'll get my precision 670 back from a friend of mine, that thing could perform. (It could run crysis 😜)

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Reply 6025 of 27454, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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xplus93 wrote:
TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
xplus93 wrote:

Farcry was running poorly so I decided to run 3Dmark. From what i've seen this is a typical score for my rig.

P4 EE 3.4 478/6800GT OC AGP

A bit low isn't it? My FX5950 rig scores 3500ish and I know for a fact the 6800GT has roughly twice the performance under DX9 so I would expect it to score high 6k low 7k.

Probably not the best base system. It's an OEM build. Also, my CPU has been through hell and back, literally, so i'm not sure how well it performs. It is low on the spectrum for my config though. I love dell, but the cooling in this system is pretty dangerous. It's a small passive with two giant fans and a shroud pulling air through it. Later models fixed it, but those are PCIe and 775. One of these days i'll get my precision 670 back from a friend of mine, that thing could perform. (It could run crysis 😜)

What's the base system? Mine is a Dimension 4600

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Reply 6026 of 27454, by xplus93

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
xplus93 wrote:

Probably not the best base system. It's an OEM build. Also, my CPU has been through hell and back, literally, so i'm not sure how well it performs. It is low on the spectrum for my config though. I love dell, but the cooling in this system is pretty dangerous. It's a small passive with two giant fans and a shroud pulling air through it. Later models fixed it, but those are PCIe and 775. One of these days i'll get my precision 670 back from a friend of mine, that thing could perform. (It could run crysis 😜)

What's the base system? Mine is a Dimension 4600

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XPS B1000r|PIII-1GHz|512MB|GF2 PRO 64MB|SB Live!
XPS Gen2|P4 EE 3.4|2GB|GF 6800 GT OC|Audigy 2

Reply 6027 of 27454, by oeuvre

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yet another optiplex, I got it working with MS-DOS 6.22 + WfW 3.11 + 95

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Reply 6028 of 27454, by kithylin

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Played with my new-to-me-but-older 775 P5E3 WiFi-AP board and some of my p4 chips. Using my Cooler Master GeminII S heatsink and a strong thermaltake 120mm fan, got my P4 single core cedar mill D0 chip to 5012 mhz stable on air cooling. And when I got tired and shut it down for the night I was tuning my Pentium-D 930 dual core chip to run at 4890 Mhz on air cooling. Was running fine.. have a little more tweaking. And tomorrow (well later today after sleep) try and move it up to a water block and see where I can go with better cooling. I'm not touching northbridge voltage, so it won't damage the board, and these chips are like $3 - $5 each today and commonly found on ebay cheap. So I don't care what happens to em.. so planning to try for something stupid like 2.1v and 6 ghz on water. Don't care if they pop, stupid-cheap chips. Fun to play with.

Reply 6029 of 27454, by brostenen

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Recieved new Amiga600 (or just Amiga) rubber feet's. Now my 600 has some new shoes...
The old ones were shit, was begining to turn into some surt of gue.
The previous owner had attached filt rings in order to counter out the guish old ones.
Need to clean old glue up.

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Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 6030 of 27454, by Nvm1

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I have been searching for the manual for a packard bell Legend 610 (model number pb400e) without success for 2 hours 😢
Got a unit in a good looking condition but with only an imprint on the inside of the desktop cover and I am curious what cache is needed and what upgrades can be done with the upgrade socket for i487's.
Going to remove the bits of dust tomorrow and chech the psu before powering the unit and gonna try again to find a manual. I hope to be able to stick some cache and a dx66 in this machine. That would make a nice little retro shoebox.

Reply 6031 of 27454, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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kithylin wrote:

Played with my new-to-me-but-older 775 P5E3 WiFi-AP board and some of my p4 chips. Using my Cooler Master GeminII S heatsink and a strong thermaltake 120mm fan, got my P4 single core cedar mill D0 chip to 5012 mhz stable on air cooling. And when I got tired and shut it down for the night I was tuning my Pentium-D 930 dual core chip to run at 4890 Mhz on air cooling. Was running fine.. have a little more tweaking. And tomorrow (well later today after sleep) try and move it up to a water block and see where I can go with better cooling. I'm not touching northbridge voltage, so it won't damage the board, and these chips are like $3 - $5 each today and commonly found on ebay cheap. So I don't care what happens to em.. so planning to try for something stupid like 2.1v and 6 ghz on water. Don't care if they pop, stupid-cheap chips. Fun to play with.

Nice. You should throw a E8400 E0 stepping in there and see what it can do.

Do you have any plans to go LN2 or Phasechange?

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Reply 6032 of 27454, by armankordi

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Comparing my collection from 2012 to now.
Note: In 2012, the only machine I had was the PS/2 Model 70, and the Compaq Deskpro.

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IBM PS/2 8580-071 386-16 (486DX-33 reply) OS/2 warp
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K6/2 - 350/128mb ram/512k cache/4.3gb hdd/cdr/sblive/w98

Reply 6033 of 27454, by clueless1

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@armankordi - nice collection! Which are your favorite so far?

I've been seeing which GOG games I own will work on my Win98 rig with minimal fuss. I'm sticking to DX7 or earlier games from 1997-2000, since the rig is a P2-450 with V2 SLI.

So far, these confirmed working:
-GLQuake
-Quake II
-Unreal Gold
-Deus Ex
-Freespace
-HOMM2
-Fallout 1 and 2
-Planescape Torment
-Colonization

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Reply 6034 of 27454, by BSA Starfire

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I keep meaning to see if my GOG version of Hand of fate works under real DOS on the old machines.

286 20MHz,1MB RAM,Trident 8900B 1MB, Conner CFA-170A.SB 1350B
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Reply 6035 of 27454, by kithylin

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Nice. You should throw a E8400 E0 stepping in there and see what it can do.

Do you have any plans to go LN2 or Phasechange?

Unfortunately phasechange and ln2 are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy out of my price range (my usual total income at the moment is $30 - $40/month.) Plus I'm saving up for a new video card for my big gaming computer (my dual-1366 rig) some time soon.

I did also get one of my other chips to run well. I have a single core cedar mill celeron I got to run at 5200 mhz, but kinda pointless.

And then finally after "playing around" with the p4's I loaded up my best spare 775 chip for it a x6800 and playing with that. Turns out the multiplier being unlocked is almost completely useless on it. My x6800 won't do a single +1 mhz over 3905 or it won't even start up. But 3900 - 3905 is perfect and runs great. Unfortunately this x48 motherboard I have doesn't like any of my fast ddr3 I own.. I have a set of ADATA DDR3 (3x4GB) rated for 2000 mhz, and a 4x4GB set of Mushkin Blackline ram rated for 2400 mhz. Neither will actually run at all in it. The only ram I can get to work in this board is my set of 1GB DDR3-1066-ECC (not registered) ram from when I first got my file server some 4 years ago. Works in this thing but I only get 4GB ram for now. Maybe I'll try a set of kingston in it later. Kingston works in everything.

Reply 6036 of 27454, by ODwilly

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Maybe putting together a Slot A system after work today. Got a nice case lined up just have to strip it's current residents and transfer the parts over. Also finally putting together my spare am2/2+/3 system. Thinking XP for that one.

Oh then there's an empty case to fill still and a couple Dell's that need repaired.

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Retro PC: Soyo P4S Dragon, 3gb ddr 266, 120gb Maxtor, Geforce Fx 5950 Ultra, SB Live! 5.1

Reply 6037 of 27454, by bjwil1991

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Decided to take the 20GB Hitachi Hard Drive out of my ThinkPad R40 2682 and placed it in my HP Pavilion N3350 since booting off of a flash drive is faster than the HDD itself.

The Pavilion N3350 had a Fushitsu Hard Drive in it, and I thought the connector that's on the HDD was a permanent one, and thankfully, I can put a standard laptop IDE HDD in the system since the connector converts from the 44-pin IDE to a proprietary connector. I installed Windows 98SE on it, the drivers for the modem, sound, touchpad, and display successfully, now I just need to install 3D Space Cadet Pinball on the system, as well as Plus! 98, maybe even upgrade the memory from 64MB to 256MB.

My ThinkPad R40 is going to be running Lubuntu, and 256MB RAM is somewhat sufficient, just not for browsing the web, so upgrading the RAM to 1GB would suffice.

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Reply 6038 of 27454, by nforce4max

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Brought back a Dell Latitude D830 back from the dead so to speak after sitting for years as a retro xp laptop only to find that the speakers have dry rotted 🙁
Going to scrounge some spares but anyway it is nice to tinker around with.

On a far away planet reading your posts in the year 10,191.

Reply 6039 of 27454, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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nforce4max wrote:

Brought back a Dell Latitude D830 back from the dead so to speak after sitting for years as a retro xp laptop only to find that the speakers have dry rotted 🙁
Going to scrounge some spares but anyway it is nice to tinker around with.

Bad timing. I scrapped 3 or 4 laptops a couple weeks ago and I would have sent you all the speakers for free.

Just grab some cheap USB speakers or some headphones or something.

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