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Reply 11740 of 22089, by rick6

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I was browsing for 3dfx hardware on ebay and came across this Voodoo 4 4500. At first i though it was an obvious scam, but then after googling the model i guess it is real ?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3Dfx-Voodoo-4-4500-P … &frcectupt=true

I'm baffled.

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Reply 11741 of 22089, by brostenen

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Did a much needed recap of an Abit KG7. Werdly enough it worked (kinda) at 100MHz FSB with a low end 750MHz T-Bird. […]
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Did a much needed recap of an Abit KG7.
Werdly enough it worked (kinda) at 100MHz FSB with a low end 750MHz T-Bird.

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And after, Panasonics, yum !:

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Leaning cap to leave more room for the cooler:
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Couldn't find quality caps of the right height, so just one recap at the AGP slot:
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Much better !:
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Now purring along happily with an Athlon 1200C (133MHz FSB).
Another part of my Y2K build sorted =)

Nice... Soldering are actually quite fun. 😀 Congrats on the job.

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Reply 11742 of 22089, by gca

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Finally almost finished testing all the games that came with the Amstrad CPC 464 that I recently bought. […]
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Finally almost finished testing all the games that came with the Amstrad CPC 464 that I recently bought.

Just 1 game left to test - Epyx Winter Games. As that's a large multi-load game though, I'll leave it until tomorrow for some joystick wrecking action. 🤣

But out of the other 91 games I tested and played briefly (if they were any good), only 18 cassettes were bad.

One of these days I'll have to get around to recording new tapes from the CDT files, just to put working copies inside the cassette cases. But for now, playing the .CDT directly will suffice for those games.

Those tapes might actually be okay but the read write heads on the tape drive are slightly out of alignment. Had that problem with a couple of code masters titles way back, everything would load except those unless the tape heads were aligned just so.

Reply 11743 of 22089, by Gered

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So, a follow up to my previous post regarding my efforts to downgrade a Thinkpad 760ED from an 1024x768 XGA display to 800x600 SVGA (maybe it will help that one other random person in the future who wants to try this, haha). Previously, I thought I had read that all that needed to be done to do this downgrade was to replace the LCD Panel and the video board together. However, that is most definitely not correct. You need to replace the LCD panel, video board and system board (basically most of the guts of the laptop, heh). My previous effort resulted in no image on the display because I did not replace the system board (still was using the original one from my 760ED model 9546-U9A... in other words, an XGA-specific system board) Thankfully I did get all of these replacement parts together. Once I swapped the system board out, it all worked (ignoring the BIOS errors, they were resolvable by actually reassembling everything and going into the BIOS once):

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However, there was still that bunch of distortion along the bottom. Spoke to the seller over the next few days and tried various things but nothing would resolve it. Seemed pretty clear it was damage on the LCD panel itself. Luckily he did have another one and offered to send it. That replacement arrived today.

Z6LjXQvm.jpg WpUoAwQm.jpg

Not perfect unfortunately as you can see. But much, much better and for the most part I find I'm not noticing the imperfections when I'm actively using it. So I figure I'm just going to stick with this since he doesn't have any others anyway. Also as a nice bonus, swapping the system board nets me an ESS sound card (came with it, probably because the system board is originally from a 760EL) instead of the garbage MWave that was in my original board. Beautiful.

Now I actually think this laptop is my preferred DOS laptop over my Toshiba 430CDT, for two reasons: 1. I can toggle screen expansion/scaling on or off via Fn+F8 which is very convenient and, 2. I much prefer the keyboard. The keys feel a little nicer and I much prefer the layout. The main downside is that the bottom of this laptop gets hot. There is no CPU fan unfortunately.

I hate IBM's "FRU" numbering, but for anyone coming across this post who was curious about doing this type of downgrade, the necessary SVGA parts are:

  • LCD panel: 82H8496
  • Video board: 82H8882
  • System board: 82H8879 (also seen this referred to via 05K3172, but 82H8879 should definitely appear on the board... that other number I cannot find anywhere on it *shrugs*)

These are all parts originally found in a 760EL/ELD (9547-4UG or 9547-U4T).

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Reply 11745 of 22089, by x0zm_

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Messed around some more with YouTube on old Windows/Browser. Went with Windows Media Player 6.3 this time for better codec compatibility with encoders available on ffmpeg. Significantly cuts down on the time required as shown in demos.

Demo 1 - 486 Advertisement
Demo 2 - i9 Advertisement

Properly searchable YouTube without having to give direct URLs, a "loading" screen instead of a waiting cursor and comments under the video. Video title, description, comment avatars not implemented yet.

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Reply 11746 of 22089, by jaZz_KCS

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Gered wrote:
So, a follow up to my previous post regarding my efforts to downgrade a Thinkpad 760ED from an 1024x768 XGA display to 800x600 S […]
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So, a follow up to my previous post regarding my efforts to downgrade a Thinkpad 760ED from an 1024x768 XGA display to 800x600 SVGA (maybe it will help that one other random person in the future who wants to try this, haha). Previously, I thought I had read that all that needed to be done to do this downgrade was to replace the LCD Panel and the video board together. However, that is most definitely not correct. You need to replace the LCD panel, video board and system board (basically most of the guts of the laptop, heh). My previous effort resulted in no image on the display because I did not replace the system board (still was using the original one from my 760ED model 9546-U9A... in other words, an XGA-specific system board) Thankfully I did get all of these replacement parts together. Once I swapped the system board out, it all worked (ignoring the BIOS errors, they were resolvable by actually reassembling everything and going into the BIOS once):

HbanCPRm.jpg

However, there was still that bunch of distortion along the bottom. Spoke to the seller over the next few days and tried various things but nothing would resolve it. Seemed pretty clear it was damage on the LCD panel itself. Luckily he did have another one and offered to send it. That replacement arrived today.

Z6LjXQvm.jpg WpUoAwQm.jpg

Not perfect unfortunately as you can see. But much, much better and for the most part I find I'm not noticing the imperfections when I'm actively using it. So I figure I'm just going to stick with this since he doesn't have any others anyway. Also as a nice bonus, swapping the system board nets me an ESS sound card (came with it, probably because the system board is originally from a 760EL) instead of the garbage MWave that was in my original board. Beautiful.

Now I actually think this laptop is my preferred DOS laptop over my Toshiba 430CDT, for two reasons: 1. I can toggle screen expansion/scaling on or off via Fn+F8 which is very convenient and, 2. I much prefer the keyboard. The keys feel a little nicer and I much prefer the layout. The main downside is that the bottom of this laptop gets hot. There is no CPU fan unfortunately.

I hate IBM's "FRU" numbering, but for anyone coming across this post who was curious about doing this type of downgrade, the necessary SVGA parts are:

  • LCD panel: 82H8496
  • Video board: 82H8882
  • System board: 82H8879 (also seen this referred to via 05K3172, but 82H8879 should definitely appear on the board... that other number I cannot find anywhere on it *shrugs*)

These are all parts originally found in a 760EL/ELD (9547-4UG or 9547-U4T).

The only replacement substitution I ever made on a 760 series ThinkPad was to substitute the middle part of the motherboard triple sandwich, the Sound and Modem MWave board, for one out of an 760ED, which has an ESS soundcard and no modem.

IIRC, in addition to the system board, video board and ofc. panel, these machines use different BIOS revisions, depending of what type of display is used. IIRC there have always been two distinctly different BIOS version to choose from when downloading, one for the "SVGA BIOS" and one for the "XGA BIOS"

I hope you get it figured out. Supposedly, what I did specifically - putting an ELD sound board into an ED - although possible the other way around, is supposedly - according to the internet - not possible the other way around like I did. But it worked. So supposedly there could be way more combinations possible yet unknown to man 😀

Good luck.

Reply 11747 of 22089, by bjwil1991

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That is pretty darn cool to see that. What are the requirements to watch videos on there? I have systems from the 486 to Athlon 64 running Windows 95C to Windows 98SE. Also, is there a special software to use that translates YouTube.com to an older machine that has Media Player 6.3 installed?

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Reply 11748 of 22089, by Gered

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jaZz_KCS wrote:
The only replacement substitution I ever made on a 760 series ThinkPad was to substitute the middle part of the motherboard trip […]
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The only replacement substitution I ever made on a 760 series ThinkPad was to substitute the middle part of the motherboard triple sandwich, the Sound and Modem MWave board, for one out of an 760ED, which has an ESS soundcard and no modem.

IIRC, in addition to the system board, video board and ofc. panel, these machines use different BIOS revisions, depending of what type of display is used. IIRC there have always been two distinctly different BIOS version to choose from when downloading, one for the "SVGA BIOS" and one for the "XGA BIOS"

I hope you get it figured out. Supposedly, what I did specifically - putting an ELD sound board into an ED - although possible the other way around, is supposedly - according to the internet - not possible the other way around like I did. But it worked. So supposedly there could be way more combinations possible yet unknown to man 😀

Good luck.

Yeah, sorry if it wasn't clear from my post, but this is basically exactly what I did -- put the LCD panel, video and system boards from a 760EL/ELD into my 760ED (system board also had the ESS sound card as you mentioned, which is awesome). Working great now! But just had to go through two different LCDs to get one that was of acceptable quality. You're right that there were indeed two BIOS's for SVGA and XGA, and as you noted, there is a bunch of conflicting information out there on what hardware combinations you can do (the cause of the confusion I personally ran into).

It's kind of funny to me as I realize most people at that time probably wanted to go the other way around and upgrade their SVGA components to their XGA equivalents, but IMHO, when considering DOS usage the XGA video card does some absolutely atrocious screen expansion (even when considering that screen expansion of any laptop from this time was terrible) so I really wanted the downgrade! With a SVGA components, the screen expansion is still objectively "bad," but it is definitely "less bad." 🤣

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P233 MMX/64MB/Voodoo2/Matrox/YMF719/GUS CD3
Duron 800/256MB/Savage4 Pro/SBLive (IN PROGRESS)
Toshiba 430CDT

Reply 11749 of 22089, by Cyrix200+

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brostenen wrote:
Sure. Why not! Here you go. :-) […]
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That's a grear result! What does it look like now? Any pics?

Sure. Why not! Here you go. 😀

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Looks great. Sometimes a feel tempted to look for a C64, I have no experience with them and I don't think I even ever used one.

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Reply 11750 of 22089, by x0zm_

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bjwil1991 wrote:

That is pretty darn cool to see that. What are the requirements to watch videos on there? I have systems from the 486 to Athlon 64 running Windows 95C to Windows 98SE. Also, is there a special software to use that translates YouTube.com to an older machine that has Media Player 6.3 installed?

I've successfully tested on a Pentium 75 machine running 95B.

I put a small demo with pre-rendered videos online, with all different encoders and codecs at different resolutions.

Feel free to give it a go and see which ones work nicely for you. All required software for different codecs & players are linked on the page if you don't already have them.

They've mainly been encoded to have YouTube playable on Pentium / Pentium MMX era hardware. It may work on 486, it'll certainly work on newer hardware just fine.

It can easily be scaled up to any resolution for newer hardware, since it's just ffmpeg encoding. It's simple at heart. YouTube API to get search results and video information/comments, youtube-dl to download videos and ffmpeg to re-encode them to friendlier older formats and then automatically present it in-browser. It'll be both online (with some limitations due to cost) and the software package freely available when it's completed to anyone who wants to run it themselves locally for their own retro PCs at home where you can give it whatever settings you want.

Reply 11751 of 22089, by luckybob

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Today I saved a Trenton TR-P6V pentium pro board from the bin. I had actually bought this board 10+ years ago and it never worked right, the bios would hang and could never finish posting. Well, I stumbled across the board last night when i was goofing around in the garage and gave it another go.

Still had errors, but this time I was armed with a eeprom programmer, and sure enough, the bios chip was wonky. Not enough the system wouldn't post, but enough where it couldn't finish. So I contacted the people that made the board: https://www.trentonsystems.com/ and they were quick to respond and happy to provide a manual and updated bios. So in addition to the board now working properly, I now have a manual!

There still is a borked memory slot (or a bad simm) but I can fix that easily enough.

I'll post both over onto vogons drivers for the people that google sends here. Also if anyone has a TR-DP6 version of this board (dual cpu), shoot me an message as I'd love to get it from you.

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Reply 11752 of 22089, by keenmaster486

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@x0zm_, tested on my Pentium III machine, in IE 5.0 - all the ffmpeg ones all work great but the MS ASF ones stutter quite a bit, no matter what the resolution or bitrate I choose.

I flermmed the plootash just like you asked.
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Reply 11753 of 22089, by liqmat

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Today I saved a Trenton TR-P6V pentium pro board from the bin. I had actually bought this board 10+ years ago and it never worked right, the bios would hang and could never finish posting. Well, I stumbled across the board last night when i was goofing around in the garage and gave it another go.

Still had errors, but this time I was armed with a eeprom programmer, and sure enough, the bios chip was wonky. Not enough the system wouldn't post, but enough where it couldn't finish. So I contacted the people that made the board: https://www.trentonsystems.com/ and they were quick to respond and happy to provide a manual and updated bios. So in addition to the board now working properly, I now have a manual!

There still is a borked memory slot (or a bad simm) but I can fix that easily enough.

I'll post both over onto vogons drivers for the people that google sends here. Also if anyone has a TR-DP6 version of this board (dual cpu), shoot me an message as I'd love to get it from you.

That's great the manufacturer provided support like that. Most people would have left it as a lost cause.

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Reply 11754 of 22089, by Intel486dx33

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jaZz_KCS wrote:
The only replacement substitution I ever made on a 760 series ThinkPad was to substitute the middle part of the motherboard trip […]
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Gered wrote:
So, a follow up to my previous post regarding my efforts to downgrade a Thinkpad 760ED from an 1024x768 XGA display to 800x600 S […]
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So, a follow up to my previous post regarding my efforts to downgrade a Thinkpad 760ED from an 1024x768 XGA display to 800x600 SVGA (maybe it will help that one other random person in the future who wants to try this, haha). Previously, I thought I had read that all that needed to be done to do this downgrade was to replace the LCD Panel and the video board together. However, that is most definitely not correct. You need to replace the LCD panel, video board and system board (basically most of the guts of the laptop, heh). My previous effort resulted in no image on the display because I did not replace the system board (still was using the original one from my 760ED model 9546-U9A... in other words, an XGA-specific system board) Thankfully I did get all of these replacement parts together. Once I swapped the system board out, it all worked (ignoring the BIOS errors, they were resolvable by actually reassembling everything and going into the BIOS once):

HbanCPRm.jpg

However, there was still that bunch of distortion along the bottom. Spoke to the seller over the next few days and tried various things but nothing would resolve it. Seemed pretty clear it was damage on the LCD panel itself. Luckily he did have another one and offered to send it. That replacement arrived today.

Z6LjXQvm.jpg WpUoAwQm.jpg

Not perfect unfortunately as you can see. But much, much better and for the most part I find I'm not noticing the imperfections when I'm actively using it. So I figure I'm just going to stick with this since he doesn't have any others anyway. Also as a nice bonus, swapping the system board nets me an ESS sound card (came with it, probably because the system board is originally from a 760EL) instead of the garbage MWave that was in my original board. Beautiful.

Now I actually think this laptop is my preferred DOS laptop over my Toshiba 430CDT, for two reasons: 1. I can toggle screen expansion/scaling on or off via Fn+F8 which is very convenient and, 2. I much prefer the keyboard. The keys feel a little nicer and I much prefer the layout. The main downside is that the bottom of this laptop gets hot. There is no CPU fan unfortunately.

I hate IBM's "FRU" numbering, but for anyone coming across this post who was curious about doing this type of downgrade, the necessary SVGA parts are:

  • LCD panel: 82H8496
  • Video board: 82H8882
  • System board: 82H8879 (also seen this referred to via 05K3172, but 82H8879 should definitely appear on the board... that other number I cannot find anywhere on it *shrugs*)

These are all parts originally found in a 760EL/ELD (9547-4UG or 9547-U4T).

The only replacement substitution I ever made on a 760 series ThinkPad was to substitute the middle part of the motherboard triple sandwich, the Sound and Modem MWave board, for one out of an 760ED, which has an ESS soundcard and no modem.

IIRC, in addition to the system board, video board and ofc. panel, these machines use different BIOS revisions, depending of what type of display is used. IIRC there have always been two distinctly different BIOS version to choose from when downloading, one for the "SVGA BIOS" and one for the "XGA BIOS"

I hope you get it figured out. Supposedly, what I did specifically - putting an ELD sound board into an ED - although possible the other way around, is supposedly - according to the internet - not possible the other way around like I did. But it worked. So supposedly there could be way more combinations possible yet unknown to man 😀

Good luck.

I am looking for a Display ribbon or entire display assembly for an IBM Thinkpad 755.
The ribbon is wind up in a coil and unwinds when you open the lid.
IBM solution for a laptop display.
The problem is that in time the ribbon coil rubs on the thinkpad housing and on itself and ends up getting damaged.
So now the thinkpad has distortion in the display.
at first I thought it was just the display so i was able to find a NEW display on ebay.
But the problem was actually the display ribbon.
I think the replacement part actually comes with the ribbon.
But I do not have a ribbon and could not find one for sale on ebay.

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Reply 11756 of 22089, by HanJammer

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You know your Kalok HDD is a girl, when you power it on and starts blowing a lot of pink smoke!

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Reply 11757 of 22089, by bjwil1991

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Logic board might've failed. I had hard drives that had black smoke come out when I would flip the switch on the power supply.

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Set up Windows 98SE and all drivers on my Dell Dimension XPS D333; it works like clockwork so far. I only need to test my internal AWE64 to Montego Line Out routing and the Voodoo 2 I had to fix about two dozen bent and contacting pins on.. If all works out, it will be my daily driver 😀

Also..

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Completely tore down and cleaned an old AT case and a Dell Dimension XPS D333 tower PC. I have also done a (near) complete restoration of the Dell, the only issue being one of the 3.5" expansion bays. The lower bay seems to require some kind of caddy device to install a floppy/zip drive in it? Mine is missing. I also lack the cover for it and standard covers don't seem to work, if anyone has one of these towers and could post photos of what needs to go into the lowermost 3.5" bay I would be very glad.

Can do.
Won't be until next week tho, work stuff before i can get my retro off again =)

Any chance you had time to look into this for me? 😀

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Reply 11759 of 22089, by HanJammer

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bjwil1991 wrote:

Logic board might've failed. I had hard drives that had black smoke come out when I would flip the switch on the power supply.

Just one of tantalum caps. Drive wouldn't start, activating overcurrent protection in the PSU as well. Then flames and smoke started coming from under the drive. Those caps usually just pop like fire crackers - this time it was different. Now the drive spins up OK. I will just replace the caps on the board and see what happens.

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