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Reply 12720 of 22091, by Bruninho

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Caluser2000 wrote:

Ran some 20 year old software on a 24 year old hardware.

Amazing! Which linux distro is it?

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READ: Right to Repair sucks and is illegal!

Reply 12721 of 22091, by Caluser2000

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bfcastello wrote:
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Ran some 20 year old software on a 24 year old hardware.

Amazing! Which linux distro is it?

Turbo Linux 6.0(server version which doesn't have as many user applications) running Gnome 1.x with icewm window manager and Stone theme. Wish I knew back then how well you can customize linux. Maybe I would have adopted it earlier. Turbo linux was based on RedHat 6.x .so rpm based, but with some better setup tools. Biggest thing is getting over the file system layout and how to use a terminal. I just think of the command line as a more powerful Dos now, that can do far more.

Collecting boxed copies of old OSs is a hobby of mine. You can see the variations between distros. Some were more polished then others. Not all had the same layout, setup or way of installing software. Of course they were no where near as bloated back then as well. As you can see from the screen shot Netscape Navigator can make posts on vogons.org with no issues at all. Personally I think any computer hobbyist should have at least some experience with linux.

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There's a glitch in the matrix.
A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 12722 of 22091, by appiah4

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Caluser2000 wrote:
bfcastello wrote:
Caluser2000 wrote:

Ran some 20 year old software on a 24 year old hardware.

Amazing! Which linux distro is it?

Turbo Linux 6.0(server version which doesn't have as much user applications) running Gnome 1.x with icewm window manager and Stone theme. Wish I knew back then how well you can customize linux. Maybe I would have adopted it earlier. Turbo linux was based on RedHat 6.x .so rpm based, but with some better setup tools. Biggest thing is getting over the file system layout and how to use a terminal. I just think of the command line as a more powerful Dos now, that can do far more.

Collecting boxed copies of old OSs is a hobby of mine. You can see the variations between distros. Some were more polished then others. Not all had the same layout, setup or way of installing software. Of course they were no where near as bloated back then as well. As you can see from the screen shot Netscape Navigator can make posts on vogons.org with no issues at all. Personally I think any computer hobbyist should have at least some experience with linux.

I used RedHat 5.0-5.2-6.0-6.2 between 1998-2001 and yes, that experience taught me a LOT about computers.

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Reply 12723 of 22091, by Caluser2000

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The first Linux distro I installed at home was Red Hat 6.2. It came as a cover CD on Australian Personal Computer magazine along with BeOS 5.0 PE and OS/2 v4 Warp. Linux installed without a hitch detecting all my hardware at the time including the sound card so no driver hunting but a bit weird compared to what I was use to. At bit later on I installed RH 7.3 on a hashed together Pentium 200mmx slimline HP system which I saved from the rubbish. Slimmed down as much of it I could, Nautilus in Gnome 1.2 just dragged it to it's knees. Mind you it only had 1meg of vram and 32megs of system ram. Once trimmed down using Window Maker and smaller applications It ran quite well. Over time I maxed out the on board vram and system ram when I got some spare from scrapped systems. My main system ran Windows 98 but I was spending my time more on the wee linux box. Now it runs Xandros 2.5 because that has far better usb detection.

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Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 12724 of 22091, by appiah4

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I'm testing out sound cards for my 486 and making recordings of FM Synth tracker and game music.

Yamaha YMF719 so far, CS428 and ES1868 next, them probably some CMI and ALS stuff.

Feel free to follow the playlist on Sound Cloud:

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Reply 12725 of 22091, by Caluser2000

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Cool. Just installed Mandrake 6.1 background graphics on to my Turbo linux 6 setup using it's package management tool. Who said it was hard to install stuff on old linuxs?

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Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 12726 of 22091, by Tiido

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I recapped my Matsonic MS7177CT motherboard, updated the BIOS to latest and removed the AMR slot so that I could prepare it for addition of ISA slots. Tualatin boards without ISA are worthless to me, but this board has some potential ~

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T-04YBSC, a new YMF71x based sound card & Official VOGONS thread about it
Newly made 4MB 60ns 30pin SIMMs ~
mida sa loed ? nagunii aru ei saa 😜

Reply 12727 of 22091, by Cyrix200+

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Tiido wrote:

I recapped my Matsonic MS7177CT motherboard, updated the BIOS to latest and removed the AMR slot so that I could prepare it for addition of ISA slots. Tualatin boards without ISA are worthless to me, but this board has some potential ~

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How are you going to add ISA to that board?

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Reply 12728 of 22091, by appiah4

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Cyrix200+ wrote:
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I recapped my Matsonic MS7177CT motherboard, updated the BIOS to latest and removed the AMR slot so that I could prepare it for addition of ISA slots. Tualatin boards without ISA are worthless to me, but this board has some potential ~

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How are you going to add ISA to that board?

What kind of sorcery is this!?

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Reply 12731 of 22091, by Bruninho

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I remember I had used Red Hat linux in one occasion. It was quite complicated tbh

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READ: Right to Repair sucks and is illegal!

Reply 12732 of 22091, by PTherapist

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Received an EEPROM chip that I ordered from China and programmed the latest BIOS for my PC Chips M507 Socket 7 Motherboard, BIOS version dated 2000. Old BIOS was from 1996.

It didn't fix the main issue I was having - my COAST module isn't recognised (possibly faulty). But at least the BIOS now reports correctly whether it has cache or not, instead of being hardcoded to say it always has.

The new BIOS now recognises the installed AMD K6-2 CPU rather than displaying it as an 80486. It does get the model number/clock speed wrong though, naming a K6-2 500 as K6-2 488, but that could be down to the way the jumpers are set as I have it underclocked to 300MHz. I might play around with the clock settings on this new BIOS version at some point and see if I can get a bit more speed out of it.

The newer BIOS also brings things like Plug N Play options, as well as CD-ROM detection & CD booting.

In a way it's kind of a shame to run this board with a more recent BIOS. Takes away a bit of the nostalgic value. 🤣

Reply 12733 of 22091, by PTherapist

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Some further retro activity. Cleaned out my Xbox console - wasn't too bad inside really, a couple of cobwebs and tiny amount of dust.

Whilst I had the thing dissassembled, I decided to attempt upgrading the HDD. I looked at what spare parts I had laying about in storage and as luck would have it, I had everything I needed - 80-pin IDE cable, compatible IDE-SATA adapter, Molex Splitter and most importantly the spare 500GB SATA drive I chose was on the supported list. Must have been fate! 😎

All upgraded and working great. The drive I went with was a WD Blue WDC WD5000AAKX 500GB SATA HDD and I had no problems at all. 500GB is sufficient for my needs.

Had a couple of near-miss kind of mishaps, first the IDE-SATA adapter when moved a certain way made contact with the bare metal of the HDD. I insulated that pretty quickly. Secondly, I didn't tidy the IDE cable properly before trying to put the lid back on and almost destroyed the cable. Oh well, only near-misses so could have been worse. 🤣

Reply 12734 of 22091, by Caluser2000

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bfcastello wrote:

I remember I had used Red Hat linux in one occasion. It was quite complicated tbh

Underbpinnings of OSX is *nix. It just has a pretty face. Jobs was a marketing man.

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A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 12735 of 22091, by Mister Xiado

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The LNE100TX I ordered finally arrived, and installed without issue. I don't have any other useful PCI or ISA cards kicking around, so I guess I'm done with Apophis. I could add another 64MB DIMM if I had one, before maxing out the RAM, but I have no need for that much in Win95. If my mood improves, I may look into making 8bit icons for Win95. Without a better video card, I wouldn't be able to use them all that well, since their palettes would drive Windows nuts with the desktop bit depth maxed out at 8 bit color. Ah well.

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Shuttle HOT-569 v2A59IH2H with Intel Triton 82430TX chipset
Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
Intel Pentium MMX 166 revision 0543h
128MB DIMM (2X 64MB)
SoundBlaster 16 ????
Trident GUI9660XGi/968x/938x
Linksys LNE100TX
Windows 95c

The only systems left to really work on have dead Dallas chips, and I'm in no mood to fuss with those. Each system is respectively slower than their companion operational systems I've been playing with this year, both 486 and Pentium, so I have no real incentive to get on those any time soon.

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Reply 12736 of 22091, by Tiido

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Cyrix200+ wrote:

How are you going to add ISA to that board?

See those resistor arrays under the PCI slots ? Most of those connect to the ISA bus of the 686 southbridge. I only have to figure out where all the signals are which will take a bit of effort but nothing insurmountable. Most of the signals I can get from BIOS socket already actually.

T-04YBSC, a new YMF71x based sound card & Official VOGONS thread about it
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Reply 12737 of 22091, by bjwil1991

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Very interesting. Have fun, man. Signed into Shockwave with an old account my mom made years ago and the account I made years ago. Still remember the login info and was still able to sign into the site. Kept the sign in info for the site in my head.

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Reply 12738 of 22091, by Caluser2000

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Went through some boxes out in the shed an did some sorting. Few video and sound cards. Lots of real pci modems not shown and in a box. A few Socket 7 mobos with some P2/3 and later mobos. Never really realized I'd scrapped so many systems over the years. Any way it was interesting going through it.

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There's a glitch in the matrix.
A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉