kithylin wrote:

Today I completed my transition to my "new" win98se gaming platform, the AthlonXP 3200+ machine, installed my voodoo2 in it and removed from the other (old) machine, and planning to play almost all night in diablo2 in win98.

XP 3200+ for a Windows 98 SE machine? That's some serious CPU power you got there 🤣

Booted up an IBM PS/ValuePoint 425SX/Si.

philscomputerlab wrote:

kithylin wrote:

Today I completed my transition to my "new" win98se gaming platform, the AthlonXP 3200+ machine, installed my voodoo2 in it and removed from the other (old) machine, and planning to play almost all night in diablo2 in win98.

XP 3200+ for a Windows 98 SE machine? That's some serious CPU power you got there 🤣

I got the board and cpu for $16 total shipped, so.. why the heck not? My previous Win98se system was a 1.8 ghz Throubhred XP-M mobile chip and the geforce2 ultra.

Now it's the XP 3200+ (with a minor overclock to 2.4 ghz) + 6800 ultra card, in nforce2 ultra-400 system.

Today I decided that I need to build a i845 system with a S478 Willamette. Well I decided I need to organize stuff better. To be exact I decided I need to build systems until I run out of cases and by doing that lessen the stockpile of parts to a level that is possible to organize.

The first system I am going to build is an i845 system to pit against my Tualatin system as the Willamette P4 and the Tualatin coexisted during 2001 and Intel wanted you to buy the P4 while castrating the Tualatin and trying to hide if on the lower shelves.

Im pretty sure the Willamette is going to get spanked by the Tualatin but who knows.

I burned a CD-R with ADFs for my new PS/2 8557 with CT5330 but the IBM SCSI CD-ROM cannot read CD-Rs. I do not have a USB FDD right now. 😀

Found an HIS Radeon X1950XT video card I don't really know what to do with. It's the PCIe version which pretty much makes it useless.
Also found a bunch of home theater magazines from 1995. Some interesting stuff in there. Articles about CRT projectors, subwoofers, Dolby AC3...neato! 😀

Standard Def Steve wrote:

Found an HIS Radeon X1950XT video card I don't really know what to do with. It's the PCIe version which pretty much makes it useless.
Also found a bunch of home theater magazines from 1995. Some interesting stuff in there. Articles about CRT projectors, subwoofers, Dolby AC3...neato! 😀

Early PCIe XP machine with 939, 754 or lga 775 p4 system perhaps? Always sell it on Ebay or keep it for a spare 😀

ODwilly wrote:

Early PCIe XP machine with 939, 754 or lga 775 p4 system perhaps? Always sell it on Ebay or keep it for a spare 😀

The thing is, I have quite a few DX10+ video cards lying around. They're significantly faster than the x1950XT, support WDDM1.1 under Win7, and can give older single-core PCs a major boost with video decoding. I just find DX9 PCIe cards pointless these days.

I'd love to find an AGP X1950XT or 7950GT. 🙄

Swap out the faulty nic on my OS/2 v3 box.

kithylin wrote:

I got the board and cpu for $16 total shipped, so.. why the heck not? My previous Win98se system was a 1.8 ghz Throubhred XP-M mobile chip and the geforce2 ultra.

Now it's the XP 3200+ (with a minor overclock to 2.4 ghz) + 6800 ultra card, in nforce2 ultra-400 system.

Very nice!

I've got a 3200+ underway, the boards are all VIA KT600 chipset boards. Did you have any issues with the power supply because Athlon XP boards tend to draw from the 5V rail, which many modern PSUs aren't ready for. Or does yours use the additional 4 pin connector?

After a frustrating lack of progress on my SS7 build I decided to start putting together a 478 system based on my recent parts haul

philscomputerlab wrote:

kithylin wrote:

I got the board and cpu for $16 total shipped, so.. why the heck not? My previous Win98se system was a 1.8 ghz Throubhred XP-M mobile chip and the geforce2 ultra.

Now it's the XP 3200+ (with a minor overclock to 2.4 ghz) + 6800 ultra card, in nforce2 ultra-400 system.

Very nice!

I've got a 3200+ underway, the boards are all VIA KT600 chipset boards. Did you have any issues with the power supply because Athlon XP boards tend to draw from the 5V rail, which many modern PSUs aren't ready for. Or does yours use the additional 4 pin connector?

If you use a socket 462 motherboard with the P4 connector, then the power-distribution built in the motherboard -should- convert the 5v requirements for the A-XP chips from the +12 connectors on the P4 plug.

This gigabyte board I'm using, I'm using a modern'ish (it's still old.. before we had 80+ standards) Thermal Take TR-2 435 watt power supply, with most of it's power diverted to the +12v side in my 3200+ system and it's running overclocked at 2528 mhz just hunky dory without problems.

kithylin wrote:

This gigabyte board I'm using, I'm using a modern'ish (it's still old.. before we had 80+ standards) Thermal Take TR-2 435 watt power supply, with most of it's power diverted to the +12v side in my 3200+ system and it's running overclocked at 2528 mhz just hunky dory without problems.

Could you please check what rating it has on the 5V rail? Mine have 20A, which people say is pushing it.

I just decided what motherboard I will use in my 2001 i845 SDR Pentium 4 build 😀

After reading this i845 motherboard roundup from Septermber 2001 the choice was easy, the Asus P4B has much more overclocking headroom than the other boards. The Gigabyte GA-8IDX is my second choce in case the P4B wont work as well as I hope. The Gigabyte board has more overclocking and voltage options but it dosnt seem to translate to better overclocking results.

Stolen feuture table. Note that Anandtech cant count to 6 (PCI slots) 😉

The Asus P4B

The Gigabyte GA-8IDX. Notice the bulged cap.

Cleanup and organize all my hardware. Now on to testing....

philscomputerlab wrote:

kithylin wrote:

This gigabyte board I'm using, I'm using a modern'ish (it's still old.. before we had 80+ standards) Thermal Take TR-2 435 watt power supply, with most of it's power diverted to the +12v side in my 3200+ system and it's running overclocked at 2528 mhz just hunky dory without problems.

Could you please check what rating it has on the 5V rail? Mine have 20A, which people say is pushing it.

I don't know if it's because of having the 24 amps on +5v or not, but the socket 462 motherboards -WITH- the P4 slot, should be drawing cpu power entirely from the +12v rail. Where as the older socket 462 motherboards -WITHOUT- the P4 plug, were the ones that you had to worry about enough amps on the +5v side.

If you're worried about it, here's a subsidiary of FSP Group way back in the AthlonXP days that sold high-amperage +5v rail power supplies in all of their models:

http://www.ebay.com/dsc/i.html?_from=R40&_sop … K:MEFSRCHX:SRCH

There's a black one in the list with 420 watts that has a whole 42 amps on +5v for just $37.99, I found a 520-watt one with 52 amps on +5v last year for $25 on ebay from TTGI and it's running happily powering my KT133A socket 462 system (no P4 plug).

Cool, thanks for the info. One of my cases came with a PSU, which seems to be an "older design". It has 28A for the 5V rail with a 220W max rating for combined 5V and 3.3V. It should be enough and it's better than anything else I got.

Skyscraper wrote:

I just decided what motherboard I will use in my 2001 i845 SDR Pentium 4 build 😀

After reading this i845 motherboard roundup from Septermber 2001 the choice was easy, the Asus P4B has much more overclocking headroom than the other boards. The Gigabyte GA-8IDX is my second choce in case the P4B wont work as well as I hope. The Gigabyte board has more overclocking and voltage options but it dosnt seem to translate to better overclocking results.

That could be an interesting project. Never had any experience with these earlier P4 systems. All my boards have the newer 865 chipset.

philscomputerlab wrote:

Skyscraper wrote:

I just decided what motherboard I will use in my 2001 i845 SDR Pentium 4 build 😀

After reading this i845 motherboard roundup from Septermber 2001 the choice was easy, the Asus P4B has much more overclocking headroom than the other boards. The Gigabyte GA-8IDX is my second choce in case the P4B wont work as well as I hope. The Gigabyte board has more overclocking and voltage options but it dosnt seem to translate to better overclocking results.

That could be an interesting project. Never had any experience with these earlier P4 systems. All my boards have the newer 865 chipset.

I really want to see how an i845 SDR Willamette system compares to my Tualatin systems.

The PIII 1.4-S wasnt released before the first days of January 2002 but the PIII 1.26-S version was sold alongside the Willamettes during 2001. As the Tualatin with SDR memory is bottlenecked by memory bandwidth the 1.26 Ghz version @9.5x166=1583 MHz is faster than the 1.4 Ghz version @10.5x150=1575 MHz so comparing an overclocked Tualatin 1.4-S against an overclocked Willamette should be fair. I would prefer to have a Tualatin 1.26-S to make the comparison 100% period correct but the Korean guy dosnt sell those and I need the modified CPUs as I do not own any i815 FCPGA-2 boards.

Looking forward to your findings, this really interests me!

The next project after this will be to build a 2001 Socket-A system to really see what would have been the best buy 2001 😀.