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First post, by brostenen

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Hi all.
I have been looking for a tool for MS-Dos, in wich I can get an id on what ever GFX card that are installed in a computer.
I have never seen such a test-tool, and so, I was wondering if something like that excists.

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Reply 1 of 11, by Mau1wurf1977

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That Russian tool, speedsys I believe, could work for you.

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Reply 2 of 11, by brostenen

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Thanks. I will try and search for it. 😀

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Reply 4 of 11, by obobskivich

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AIDA and Astra on UBCD start from FreeDOS and identify graphics card and more, but aren't always the most accurate (usually best to run both and be willing to look things up on the web or against some other reference based on what they say). Not sure if they can be installed/run within MS-DOS, but UBCD by itself isn't so heavy that old machines can't run it. That'd be my suggestion. Alternately just open the machine up and have a look. 😀

Reply 5 of 11, by brostenen

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Thanks to all for the info. 😀
I have tried Speedsys, wich Mau1wurf1977 mentioned. It just works like I wanted it. Actually I tested one old TNT card with absolutely none info printed or labeled on the card. I found out that it is an old TNT2-M64 (as if I did not have enough of them all ready. Sigh...)
It show's just the right amount of info and some benchmarking of the cpu. Hmmm.... K6-3 400 should be allmost the same as an P2-400.
(I doubt it somehow)

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Reply 6 of 11, by GeorgeMan

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obobskivich wrote:

AIDA and Astra on UBCD start from FreeDOS and identify graphics card and more, but aren't always the most accurate (usually best to run both and be willing to look things up on the web or against some other reference based on what they say). Not sure if they can be installed/run within MS-DOS, but UBCD by itself isn't so heavy that old machines can't run it. That'd be my suggestion. Alternately just open the machine up and have a look. 😀

Aida16 works under dos and it's worth giving a try! Only on veeery very old cards, say onboard isa it doesn't show the exact amount of vram or the exact model.

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Reply 7 of 11, by obobskivich

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GeorgeMan wrote:

Aida16 works under dos and it's worth giving a try! Only on veeery very old cards, say onboard isa it doesn't show the exact amount of vram or the exact model.

It will show correct memory for some of my newer nVidia cards, but on ATi cards it always shows 16MB. With a Voodoo2 also installed it just says "256KB or greater" and shows both under graphics accelerator field.

Reply 8 of 11, by GeorgeMan

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Will try it with ati and 3dfx and see if anything's wrong with them. It recognises newer cards because it's newer, the version I have is from 2003. 😜

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Reply 9 of 11, by Mau1wurf1977

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Also worth having is an AGP setup with Windows XP and using GPU-Z. It picks up more details like clock speed. Under Windows 98SE you can try PowerStrip.

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Reply 10 of 11, by GeorgeMan

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I cannot see anything wrong with the identification of Ati and 3dfx cards anyway 😜
Ati Rage IIc AGP 8MB + 3dfx Voodoo1:
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3dfx Voodoo3 3000 16MB AGP:
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I also don't see anything wrong with the Voodoo2, it doesn't display anything improper about that. The main graphics card is not recognised because it's an 6800 from 2004, 1 year after the aida16 version I have 😜
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GPU-Z is not very accurate on sooo old cards.
Aida16 doesn't show the 3d accelerator memory sizes, because it's not designed to do so.

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Reply 11 of 11, by obobskivich

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I don't know how old or new my copy is - but for example it will show GeForce FX 5900XT properly with 128MB memory (same page you have the V3 on), but if I have a V2 installed at the same time it will show "FX 5900XT, Voodoo2" as the 3D accelerator, and just show "256KB or more" for video memory. The only ATi cards I've tested are fairly new - Radeon X or higher - and they all show 16MB. I don't have anything pre-Radeon to test with. I've wondered though if that isn't deliberate on the card - like it's only reporting 16MB in VGA mode for compatibility or some such (since it does tend to accurately tell you what GPU is there).

As far as GPU-Z and other detection utilities like that, they tend to work for newer "known cards" - I've never gotten it to accurately show my 3DLabs cards, however, and it isn't fully accurate with the 5800 Ultra. They actually have a list on the TPU website that shows every card it's compatible with. With Aida at least it will pull the BIOS string off the board and gives you enough that you could probably get reasonably close with some web searching.