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Reply 20 of 23, by Stiletto

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lazibayer wrote:

Well I got the real TX97-XE today and again the ACPI BIOS can't make XP happy. So end of story.

Okay, nice to know!

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Reply 21 of 23, by chrisNova777

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sorry to necro this thread but the topic of ACPI is important to me right now

im pretty sure it is possible to install XP without ACPI
i think i remember reading that there is a command line option? during install?

in this post they seem to say USB cant be used in an non-ACPI system

If you have a USB mouse, you may need to find an old PS/2 (round connector) mouse. USB is one of the last devices detected in this process, and therefore your mouse pointer will be unusable for part of this process if it is USB.
-- https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles … ode-windows-xp/

according to THIS post its not a comand line install option but rather u press F5 during install.. see below:

You need to specify and non-ACPI HAL during the install. You can do that my pressing F5 during the FIRST black screen that displ […]
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You need to specify and non-ACPI HAL during the install. You can do that my pressing F5 during the FIRST black screen that displays:
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Setup is inspecting your computer's hardware configuration
The response isn't immediate, but a dialog box containing different HALs will eventually come up.
-- https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=899037

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Reply 22 of 23, by lazibayer

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chrisNova777 wrote:
sorry to necro this thread but the topic of ACPI is important to me right now […]
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sorry to necro this thread but the topic of ACPI is important to me right now

im pretty sure it is possible to install XP without ACPI
i think i remember reading that there is a command line option? during install?

in this post they seem to say USB cant be used in an non-ACPI system

If you have a USB mouse, you may need to find an old PS/2 (round connector) mouse. USB is one of the last devices detected in this process, and therefore your mouse pointer will be unusable for part of this process if it is USB.
-- https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles … ode-windows-xp/

according to THIS post its not a comand line install option but rather u press F5 during install.. see below:

You need to specify and non-ACPI HAL during the install. You can do that my pressing F5 during the FIRST black screen that displ […]
Show full quote

You need to specify and non-ACPI HAL during the install. You can do that my pressing F5 during the FIRST black screen that displays:
quote:
Setup is inspecting your computer's hardware configuration
The response isn't immediate, but a dialog box containing different HALs will eventually come up.
-- https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=899037

Thanks chris. Yes it's possible to install XP on a non-ACPI platform and I had XP installed on a 486 board with Pentium Overdrive.
My ultimate goal (then) was to install Win7 on it and Win7 definitely wants ACPI. I also have a "portable" hard drive that has ACPI-enabled XP installed on it and I often migrate it to different machines if I wanted to do a fair cross platform benchmark.

Reply 23 of 23, by hyoenmadan

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NT 5.2 (Win2K3) is the last NT revision level including multiple HAL configurations for the PCAT architecture: PIC driven PC (HAL), PIC driven system with ACPI for hardware configuration enumeration (HALACPI), APIC driven system (HALAPIC. dll for UniProc Systems, HALMPS for MultiProc systems), and APIC driven systems with ACPI for hardware enumeration (HALAACPI.dll for UniProc Systems, HALMACPI for Multiproc Systems).

Since NT 6.0 (WinVista) and upwards, MS drops all the HAL set, except HALAACPI (which got renamed to HALACPI) and HALMACPI. This means the system requires both APIC and ACPI enabled, since the legacy HALs which driven the other PCAT architecture configurations aren't present. There's no way to add support for the older configurations to NT6, except maybe getting access to NT6 MS internal HALkit, the source code of the most recent NT5.2 HAL set, and trying to port them to NT6. You would also require BOOTMGR source code to re-add NTDETECT.com and support to the older ARC hardware configuration tree, since actual BootMGR code relies entirely in the ACPI enumeration tree to build NT hardware configuration registry key used in the bootprocess.

http://www.geoffchappell.com/studies/windows/ … story/index.htm