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First post, by bristlehog

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I want to make a list of such devices.

Those known to me:

Yamaha SW20-PC - up to 128K
Mediatrix AudioTrix Pro - up to 512K
Gravis Ultrasound - up to 1 Mb
Omni Labs Audio Master - up to 1,5 Mb
Ad Lib ASB64 - up to 4 Mb
Turtle Beach Rio (Monterey) - up to 4 Mb (16 Mb?)
Turtle Beach Maui - up to 8,25 Mb
Turtle Beach Tropez, Tropez Plus - up to 12 Mb
Gravis Ultrasound PnP - up to 16 Mb (32 Mb?)
Guillemot MaxiSound 64 - up to 20 Mb
Creative Sound Blaster AWE32 - up to 28 Mb
Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 - up to 28 Mb
Turtle Beach Multisound Pinnacle - up to 48 Mb
AVM Apex, Apex Pro - up to 64 Mb
Terratec EWS64S - up to 64 Mb
Terratec EWS64L/XL/XXL - up to 64 Mb

Did I miss something, or some tech info is wrong perhaps?

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Reply 2 of 16, by elianda

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MaxiSound 64 is a whole series of cards. At least the Home Studio supports 32 MB.
You forgot the MT-32.
And there should be at least a few cards that can load the ECW soundbanks?

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Reply 4 of 16, by vmunix

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Stojke wrote:

Does anybody have any Turtle beach Pinnacle sound fonts??

I have a Pinnacle project studio, though I think the cd is gone though I-m not sure if there were some. On the other hand Daytona had a few .dls on it's CD. I will check in a few days, not at home at the moment.

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Reply 6 of 16, by bristlehog

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elianda wrote:

MaxiSound 64 is a whole series of cards. At least the Home Studio supports 32 MB.
You forgot the MT-32.
And there should be at least a few cards that can load the ECW soundbanks?

They say that MaxiSound 64 HSP supports up to 20 Mb.

I am not well acquainted with MT-32. Does it support totally custom loadable patches?

ECW soundbanks? What's that?

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Reply 7 of 16, by JayCeeBee64

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bristlehog wrote:

ECW soundbanks? What's that?

I believe elianda is referring to the Ensoniq Concert Wavetable patch sets that came with the Ensoniq AudioPCI, but I don't know of any ISA sound card or daughterboard that can load and use them.

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Reply 8 of 16, by Cloudschatze

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Is the interest solely in cards that feature sample RAM options? Here are a few more that fall under that category:

Mediatrix AudioTrix Pro (512K/RAM DB)
Ad Lib ASB 64 (4MB SIPP)
Yamaha SW20-PC (128K)

Reply 9 of 16, by elianda

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bristlehog wrote:

They say that MaxiSound 64 HSP supports up to 20 Mb.

I just rechecked the manual and the Maxi Sound 64 Home Studio supports up to 16 MB RAM (+ it's 4 MB ROM). (so I remembered wrong)
The Home Studio Pro is a different card (SC8500 vs. SC8600).
The Maxi Sound 64 Dynamic 3D (SC8600 Lite) supports up to 18 MB (16 MB SIMM + 2 MB RAM onboard)

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Reply 10 of 16, by bristlehog

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Cloudschatze wrote:
Is the interest solely in cards that feature sample RAM options? Here are a few more that fall under that category: […]
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Is the interest solely in cards that feature sample RAM options? Here are a few more that fall under that category:

Mediatrix AudioTrix Pro (512K/RAM DB)
Ad Lib ASB 64 (4MB SIPP)
Yamaha SW20-PC (128K)

Perhaps not only the RAM options. Do other options exist?

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Reply 12 of 16, by Cloudschatze

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bristlehog wrote:

Perhaps not only the RAM options. Do other options exist?

Many ISA soundcards and daughterboards provide some ability to "load custom patches," drawing upon internal synthesis or ROM-based waveforms, while lacking external sample RAM options. elianda and jwt27 each mentioned a Roland and Yamaha example, respectively.

Here's the start of a more descriptive breakdown in that regard, where the actual number of "customizable/user patches" is provided:

  • E-MU 8801 / Creative Wave Blaster / Turtle Beach Multisound - 384 Presets
  • IBM Music Feature Card - 96 Voices
  • Korg DB (any) - 1 Program
  • Roland LAPC-I - 64 Timbres
  • Yamaha DB50XG/SW60XG - 32 Voices (QS300)

Reply 13 of 16, by bristlehog

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Cloudschatze wrote:
Many ISA soundcards and daughterboards provide some ability to "load custom patches," drawing upon internal synthesis or ROM-bas […]
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bristlehog wrote:

Perhaps not only the RAM options. Do other options exist?

Many ISA soundcards and daughterboards provide some ability to "load custom patches," drawing upon internal synthesis or ROM-based waveforms, while lacking external sample RAM options. elianda and jwt27 each mentioned a Roland and Yamaha example, respectively.

Here's the start of a more descriptive breakdown in that regard, where the actual number of "customizable/user patches" is provided:

  • E-MU 8801 / Creative Wave Blaster / Turtle Beach Multisound - 384 Presets
  • IBM Music Feature Card - 96 Voices
  • Korg DB (any) - 1 Program
  • Roland LAPC-I - 64 Timbres
  • Yamaha DB50XG/SW60XG - 32 Voices (QS300)

Interesting. But to what extent are their presets etc. customizable? I don't quite get it. Like, you may play with ADSR etc., but can't change the basic waveform?

And what is E-MU 8801? Never heard of such.

Of listed devices, I only looked at Turtle Beach. It has a mechanism to load obscure presets stored in MPP files. Those presents seemingly change instrument map. I have three such files: Proteus, GM and MT-32 maps.

I saw similar mechanism in a Sierra Semiconductor ARIA based card (namely, Prometheus ARIA16). It also allows loading of patch maps, but in BNK format.

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Reply 14 of 16, by Kamerat

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bristlehog wrote:

And what is E-MU 8801? Never heard of such.

Looks like a brother of the Wave Blaster: http://www.yjfy.com/museum/sound/EMU8801_sound_engine.htm

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Reply 15 of 16, by phantom_pl

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I have found a strange card, a Trump AudioWave32.
It has an ALS100 chip as Sb part, and DREAM SAM9223 synthesizer +DREAM GMS950400 0,5Mb ROM.
However, this board does have two sockets for memory expansion, and a place for two more.
I don't know what chips could be put there, what is maximum supported size, if it can be used for uploading sound banks, or only for sound editing (and if it can, what format does it uses).

Here it is:
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag220/pha … zpscb3db6f7.jpg

Reply 16 of 16, by GL1zdA

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Here's a candidate, but I don't have any information about this card: Crystal Tidal SoundWave32.

It looks like it is based on a Samsung synthesizer, but not the popular in low cost cards KS0164, but the KS0161, for which I can't find any datasheet. The KS0164 supports sample RAM, but I've never seen any card with both the KS0164 and RAM, so this one is even more unique.

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