clueless1 wrote:

Nothing too exciting - I was asked "We're throwing out this old computer, do you want it?" I figured it was P4 era, which I'm not excited about, but said yes. The worst that could happen is I throw it out on their behalf. Turns out it had a P4 3.0, x1300xt 256MB, and Audigy 2. I salvaged those and threw the rest out. Interestingly, the HDD and RAM were missing. It was a Dell Dimension 8400 with tons of bulging caps. Not interested. 😵

ouch, rip Dell, i do have interest in P4 era machines, but i tend to look into the high end stuff mostly if is possible, but i still have interest in pre-P4 era systems, i do admit getting a basic P4 combo/lot just because i saw a Geforce 256 on it 🤣

I currently own a Dell Dimension 4500 with the original motherboard and CPU and an P3 system using a Dimension 4550 case (from a dead Dimension 4550) and an Optiplex GX150 motherbard (from a GX150 with a case in bad condition), sadly my GX150 is an old revision without Tualatin support although i already got a Tualatin system using a Gigabyte GA-6OXT

About the Dell parts, the P4 might be useful for testing old LGA 775 mobos when the Radeon x1300 for testing PCI-E mobos, the Audigy 2 is a good soundcard after all. i do have a copule of Radeon x300 SE cards for just testing mobos

Rescued 4 systems from a dumpster
Left:
Medion system (untested, scrapped case):
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300
MSI MS-7358
6 GB DDR2 667
unknown nVidia card, can be an 8500 GT or an 8600 GS
WD Caviar GreenPower 500 GB SATA HDD
Left center:
AMIX 486 system:
Intel 486DX2 50
OPTi 495 486WB VER 1.2
4 MB FPM 30 pin SIMM
Tseng ET4000AX
Acer IO contoller
CM250 card(?)
WD Caviar 2540 540 MB
Right center (untested, scrapped case and PSU):
Custom P4 system
Intel Pentium 4 530J
Abit AA8XE (nice Intel 925XE motherboard)
nVidia Geforce 7200 GS
WD Caviar SE 250 GB + Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 250 GB SATA HDD
Right:
Dual Pentium MMX 233 System
Intel Pentium MMX 233 x2
Gigabyte GA-586DX
128 MB EDO 72 pin SIMM
no videocard (usted S3 Virge to test)
Singer Micropolis 4743NS 4.3 GB SCSI HDD + Seagate U4 6.4 GB IDE HDD
missing soundcard
Bonus: Leadtek Winfast A7300GT TDH Geforce 7300 GT
Miniscribe/Maxtor 8051A 41 MB HDD 3484 rpm
Quick Mouse

Inside Core 2 Quad and Pentium 4 systems

Inside the 486 system and POST screen

Inside the dual Pentium MMX system, look up for more info (had to use multiple posts to keep more organized and the amount of pics)

Carlos S. M. wrote:

Inside the dual Pentium MMX system, look up for more info (had to use multiple posts to keep more organized and the amount of pics)

A dual socket 7 in the wild. Nice rescue. Hard enougj to fine thesr in the wild as it is without letting working ones get destroyed.

Rhuwyn wrote:

Carlos S. M. wrote:

Inside the dual Pentium MMX system, look up for more info (had to use multiple posts to keep more organized and the amount of pics)

A dual socket 7 in the wild. Nice rescue. Hard enougj to fine thesr in the wild as it is without letting working ones get destroyed.

yes, this system only needs a videocard, soundcard and a new DALLAS RTC to get it fully working again

Carlos - That front panel of that 486 is amazingly awesome.

This wasn't a dumpster find. A friend finally upgraded and gave me his old rig. This system has one of those freaky AGP/PCIe, DDR/DDR2 motherboards, the ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2.

Other specs:
Pentium E2180 (2GHz, 800FSB, 1MB L2)
2GB DDR2-533 in a dual-channel config
XFX GeForce 9800GT PCI-E

and a Gigabyte Chassis. Didn't even know they made 'em!

The performance is relatively poor, which is just what I expected from this kind of motherboard. The PCIe slot only provides 4 lanes of PCIe 1.1 connectivity, and the VIA chipset's memory performance ain't that great. The Pentium's puny 1MB cache certainly doesn't help. 2D redraws in Windows XP are visibly slow (Win7 is fine).

Funnily enough, despite all of its shortcomings, this little e2180/VIA system managed to outperform a 3.2GHz Pentium D on an i965 board in every CPU benchmark I ran. The P-D even had 4MB of cache, faster memory, and a much faster graphics card. Obligatory 3DMark01 comparison:

Pentium D 935 (3.2GHz, dual DDR2-800, GTX-560)
Win7: 19,258
WinXP: 28,135

Pentium E2180 on 4CoreDual (2GHz, dual DDR2-533, 9800GT)
Win7: 20,470
WinXP: 29,392

Pentium M 755 OC (2.72GHz, dual DDR2-544, GTX-560)
Win7: 25,823
WinXP: 43,639

Opteron 185 OC (3.13GHz, dual DDR-400, GTX 560)
Win7: 28,983
WinXP: 47,464

Yonah T2600 OC (3.08GHz, dual DDR2-800, GTX-560)
Win7: 35,420
WinXP: 50,329

Eventually I will test this board with other processors. I'm guessing that a C2D with a much larger cache will mask the chipset's piss poor memory throughput.
This board supposedly supports Core 2 Quad, although I highly doubt it will be stable with that CPU. So far it's been a little flaky at 1066MHz FSB.

Standard Def Steve wrote:

This wasn't a dumpster find. A friend finally upgraded and gave me his old rig. This system has one of those freaky AGP/PCIe, DDR/DDR2 motherboards, the ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2.

I've got a similar board myself. Great for testing graphics cards quickly as you can chuck in PCI, AGP and PCIe models. No early AGP of course. I got mine as a go-between when I wanted to upgrade my CPU from S478 to S775 but couldn't afford a new graphics card yet.

Got a great looking Compaq Evo P4 desktop today. It's a 2400MHz model, socket 478 with 1GB of ram and an FX 5700. No HDD.

The motherboard has blown caps (all of them), although it still posts. I guess the case is nice, but it came with a 220W PSU. Thinking of sticking a socket 370 mainboard in it.

brassicGamer wrote:

Standard Def Steve wrote:

This wasn't a dumpster find. A friend finally upgraded and gave me his old rig. This system has one of those freaky AGP/PCIe, DDR/DDR2 motherboards, the ASRock 4CoreDual-SATA2.

I've got a similar board myself. Great for testing graphics cards quickly as you can chuck in PCI, AGP and PCIe models. No early AGP of course. I got mine as a go-between when I wanted to upgrade my CPU from S478 to S775 but couldn't afford a new graphics card yet.

Late PCI-E doesn't work on the board ethier, seems like acording to some users, GPUs later than Geforce 500 series and Radeon HD 6000 doesn't work on that board, i think non GCN Radeon HD 7000/8000 cards should work since they are mostly rebrands from the HD 5000/6000 series

Carlos, those are amazing finds! Enjoy! 😁

Seventeam is a pretty good brand PSU compared to most of the other stuff that was around in those days. It's probably old by now though.

Tetrium wrote:

Carlos, those are amazing finds! Enjoy! 😁

Seventeam is a pretty good brand PSU compared to most of the other stuff that was around in those days. It's probably old by now though.

i just tested the other system, i can confirm the Q9300 system and the P4 system works as well, same for the nvidia card which turns to be an 8600 GS or a DDR2 8600 GT, i still need to test the 7300 GT AGP and other parts like the Maxtor HDD

I'm going to use the Abit AA8XE for a future Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.46 GHz build (Gallatin), only needing to find the CPU

Found a couple of interesting things on the street today

Random samsung lcd, a sb awe64 and a tseng et4000 video card.

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Random samsung lcd, a sb awe64 and a tseng et4000 video card.

Literally just laying on the street? are the streets paved with Silicon where your from or something?

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Random samsung lcd, a sb awe64 and a tseng et4000 video card.

That is an Ancient et4000, most of the ones I have seen are 1/3rd or 1/2 that size. And that 1990 date code proves how old it is, nice!

Carlos S. M. wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

Carlos, those are amazing finds! Enjoy! 😁

Seventeam is a pretty good brand PSU compared to most of the other stuff that was around in those days. It's probably old by now though.

i just tested the other system, i can confirm the Q9300 system and the P4 system works as well, same for the nvidia card which turns to be an 8600 GS or a DDR2 8600 GT, i still need to test the 7300 GT AGP and other parts like the Maxtor HDD

I'm going to use the Abit AA8XE for a future Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.46 GHz build (Gallatin), only needing to find the CPU

Who just throws out a Core2Quad machine. A new GPU and 2 more GB of memory and your set to play modern games. As it sits, it would be more than most people need for day to day use. If I were you I'd just drop in a better GPU, instant DX10 build.

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Carlos S. M. wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

Carlos, those are amazing finds! Enjoy! 😁

Seventeam is a pretty good brand PSU compared to most of the other stuff that was around in those days. It's probably old by now though.

i just tested the other system, i can confirm the Q9300 system and the P4 system works as well, same for the nvidia card which turns to be an 8600 GS or a DDR2 8600 GT, i still need to test the 7300 GT AGP and other parts like the Maxtor HDD

I'm going to use the Abit AA8XE for a future Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.46 GHz build (Gallatin), only needing to find the CPU

Who just throws out a Core2Quad machine. A new GPU and 2 more GB of memory and your set to play modern games. As it sits, it would be more than most people need for day to day use. If I were you I'd just drop in a better GPU, instant DX10 build.

You would be surprised, I just picked up an Athlon iix4 2.8ghz AM3 machine for free. 4gb of ddr3, EIGHT!!! sata ports, matx case, and a nice w7 keycode on the sidepanel. The owners tried upgrading to W10 with the integrated HD4k series graphics chip (which doesnt have PROPER drivers, you can force 7/8 drivers to work) and it gave them issues, so they downgraded to W7. After telling them the issue, plus that their HDD was failing they didnt care, gave it to me anyway. Already had bought a new desktop 🤣.

Athlon X4's single thread performance is too slow for modern games. Around 60 percent of Core2 if I remember correctly. That would make a decent webserver or NAS though.

IDK why AMD didn't produce Win10 drivers for there older stuff. I think 6xxx series Radeons are the minimum. GF8xxx series or newer card has support from NVIDIA. This is what is keeping alot of otherwise decent laptops on Windows 7 or 8.

Doesn't affect me anyways. I'm not switching to 10 from 7 until I have to. I don't like there "windows as a service" standpoint. Forced updates and the data mining have to go before I'll consider it. They also need to stop trying to use the start menu to sell me stuff.