This one

leileilol wrote:

This one

Thank you! I'll give it a try in about an hour or two when I get 98se installed 😀

Oh this is awefully small.. I think this is just the basic sound drivers... I was sort of looking for the entire Sound blaster live SUITE off the original install CD .... Mainly with the soundfont options, and the dos emulation that loads to run dos games inside win98.

The original install CD should date from late 1999, when the 5.1 cards came out.

I'd give this a shot: http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?file … &menustate=33,0

The Live!Ware 3.0 CD is from the time period the cards came out, but seems to have been released just before the 5.1 cards came to market.

oh

though that doesn't cover sb0100

Well that was the link I wanted to post... oops. The card you have is an OEM variant that won't have drivers on retail card installs anyway. That is of course if the PCI device ID was changed.

NJRoadfan wrote:

Well that was the link I wanted to post... oops. The card you have is an OEM variant that won't have drivers on retail card installs anyway. That is of course if the PCI device ID was changed.

I found it in a generic whitebox PC... sigh, if I can't find the full software package for it, I might toss it, proper cards are cheap these days. I have another one here.. time to see what it is.

This is the other one I have, any chance I'll find a retail disc to cover it maybe?

I bought one of these as a bulk card from a computer dealer in 2001. I was given a CD-ROM with the following printed on the disc:

CD PN: 2201ML0003060/CD ASSEMBLY PN: 3201ML0003060

The README.1st file is as follows:

1-------------------------------------------------------------------
2  Sound Blaster Live! Readme First File             
3  June 2001
4-------------------------------------------------------------------
5
6This document provides late-breaking or other information that 
7supplements the Sound Blaster Live! documentation.
8
9--------
10CONTENTS
11--------
121.   DIRECTORY STRUCTURE OF THIS CD-ROM
13
142.   INSTALLING IN WINDOWS 95/98/Me/2000/NT 4.0
15
16===================================================================
17
181.   DIRECTORY STRUCTURE OF THIS CD-ROM
19     ----------------------------------
20     This CD-ROM is divided into the following subdirectories:
21
22     |-\AUDIO\ENGLISH\SETUP    - Creative Sound Blaster Live! Setup 
23     |                           Software
24     |
25     |-\AUDIO\ENGLISH\WIN9XDRV - Creative Sound Blaster Live! Drivers
26     |                           (for Windows 95/98)
27     |
28     |-\AUDIO\ENGLISH\NT4DRV   - Creative Sound Blaster Live! Drivers
29     |                           (for Windows NT 4.0)
30     |
31     |-\AUDIO\ENGLISH\WDMDRV   - Creative Sound Blaster Live! Drivers
32     |                           (for Windows 2000/Me)
33     |
34     |-\DIRECTX                - Microsoft DirectX 7.0a
35     |                           (for Windows 95/98/Me/2000)
36     |
37     |-\ACROBAT                - Acrobat Reader 4.0
38     |				 (for Windows 95/98/NT4/Me/2000)
39     |
40     |-\SOUNDFONT LIBRARY      - Sound Blaster Live! SoundFont samples
41     |
42     |     
43     |-\MANUALS                - Online documentation for the software
44     |                           in this CD (in Adobe Acrobat PDF format.
45     |                           The Adobe Acrobat Reader software is also
46     |                           included in this CD)
47     |
48     |-\OOZIC		       - Oozic Player 3.0
49     |				 (For Windows 98/ME/2000)   
50     |
51     |-\DIABLO2		       - Diablo2 Demo
52 
53     Please refer to the user documentation that comes with your
54     Sound Blaster package for more information on these software
55     applications.
56
57
582.   INSTALLING IN WINDOWS 95/98/Me/2000/NT 4.0
59     -------------------------------------------
60     If you have Windows 95/98/Me/2000/NT 4.0 on your system, the 

61     software installation process is simple as this CD-ROM is 
62     Autoplay-enabled.
63
64     Follow the steps outlined below:
65
66     (a) Insert this CD-ROM into your CD-ROM drive.
67	
68     (b) The Sound Blaster 'Welcome' screen, which contains a menu
69         of available options, will appear. This is the Setup
70         Options menu.
71 
72     (c) Select the applications you want to install, and then click
73         the OK button. Follow the onscreen instructions to complete
74         the installation.
75
76     If you want to reinstall any of the software on the CD-ROM 
77     later, you can eject the Sound Blaster CD-ROM from your CD-ROM 
78     drive, and then close the CD-ROM tray. 
79
80     Windows 95/98/Me/2000/NT 4.0 will recognize the Sound Blaster 
81     CD-ROM's Autoplay feature and the Setup Options menu will be 
82     made available again.
83
84Copyright (c) 2001 Creative Technology Ltd. All rights reserved.
85-------------------------------------------------------------------
86  End of Readme First File
87-------------------------------------------------------------------

The vsb010x.inf indicates the following:

1; Creative Technology Ltd.
2;     Copyright (c) Creative Technology Ltd, 1994-2001.
3;
4; Description
5;  This inf file contains the following device for installation
6;  a. SB0100 - SBLive! 5.1              (PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80621102)
7;  a. SB0102 - SBLive! 5.1              (PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80641102)
8;
9; Date     : 10 May 2001
10; Revision : 1.00

I don't know that the VOGONS Vintage Drive Library has this particular disc. Note that it includes a DIablo 2 demo, and although it isn't listed in the README.1ST, it does include DOS drivers.

Ahh.. sounds like you have exactly what I'm looking for. Any chance I could get you to image it and put it up somewhere? Dropbox is free and would work.

And MagicISO is a free 'virtual' drive thing, and it has an ISO-generating-from-CD option from the right-click menu. 100% freeware, no ads either.

http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicd … sc-overview.htm

The problem is my pokey upload speed (256 kbps <== Note the 'k'). I dumped the contents onto a hard drive and compressed it, and it is still over 450 MB, so I would be looking at about 5 hours of real time to upload it. I don't really mind that, but my ISP (AT&T) and these upload services don't seem to get along (I can't seem to sustain a connection long enough or fast enough to upload something).

My Linux OS has software to create ISOs, so that isn't an issue.

Maybe I can find another way to get it to the VOGONS Library.

Perhaps make split archives at a size you know you can upload successfully and get someone to recombine it later? Maybe PM someone you trust who has access to the library about doing this? Or just link the files in the thread.

I too have crappy upload (224kbit/s at time of writing this, though it fluctuates and usually gets worse, <100k around midnight) so I've had to resort to this technique in a few places. Until recently I also had some systems where floppies were the only way to move things to and from them, so I got quite good at making split WinRAR SFX's... It was very very tedious.

I don't have access to the library, so no point in asking me for anything else.

The LiveWare! 3.0 CD likely works with the CT4780. Its certainly worth a shot. I think I have the same card here, it appears to be another OEM only product.

Sorry to get off-topic, but I wanted to share what I have.

I have what I thought was a driver disc for the CT4830, but closer examination shows that the wsi10k1.inf file says this:

1;  This inf file contains the following device for installation
2;  Full-Feature WDM installation.
3;  a. CT4832 - SBlive! Value  PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80271102
4;  b. CT4760 - SBlive! Value  PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80401102
5;
6; Date     : 5 January 2001
7; Revision : 1.02

The readme.1st says this:

1  Sound Blaster Live! Readme First File             
2  March 2001

This driver disc appears to have the final version of LiveWare v3.0 drivers for win9x and it has been working fine with my CT4830 for quite some time now. However, I've also tried installing the "real" LiveWare v3.0 with the CT4830 cards and the software is different. Mostly, the DOS drivers seem to work differently. With the disc I mentioned above, a DOS driver named "devldr16.dll" is used. The "real" LiveWare v3.0 uses something else that I can't remember at the moment.

Have I unwittingly been running the wrong drivers and software all this time? The CT4832 and CT4830 cards seem like they may be the same. Should I be worried?

KT7AGuy wrote:

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Sorry to get off-topic, but I wanted to share what I have.

I have what I thought was a driver disc for the CT4830, but closer examination shows that the wsi10k1.inf file says this:

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1;  This inf file contains the following device for installation
2;  Full-Feature WDM installation.
3;  a. CT4832 - SBlive! Value  PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80271102
4;  b. CT4760 - SBlive! Value  PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80401102
5;
6; Date     : 5 January 2001
7; Revision : 1.02

The readme.1st says this:

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1  Sound Blaster Live! Readme First File             
2  March 2001

This driver disc appears to have the final version of LiveWare v3.0 drivers for win9x and it has been working fine with my CT4830 for quite some time now. However, I've also tried installing the "real" LiveWare v3.0 with the CT4830 cards and the software is different. Mostly, the DOS drivers seem to work differently. With the disc I mentioned above, a DOS driver named "devldr16.dll" is used. The "real" LiveWare v3.0 uses something else that I can't remember at the moment.

Have I unwittingly been running the wrong drivers and software all this time? The CT4832 and CT4830 cards seem like they may be the same. Should I be worried?

Not sure on your idea there. The driver CD-ROM that akula65 sent me yesterday seems to have inf entries for both the SB0100 and the CT4780 cards. I haven't gotten a chance to go test it yet.. carmageddon: reincarnation released today and I've been playing that all night. But it looks like I have the disc I need now, more than likely.

I was worried that I may have used the wrong SBLive! drivers in my PC with the CT4830, so I just checked it out. The CT4830 reports itself as "PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0002&SUBSYS_80271102". Thus, it does appear that the CT4830 and CT4832 are identical cards with different numbers on them. 😕

The disc from akula65 is now online here:

Sound Blaster Live! Install Retail Disc

KT7AGuy wrote:

The disc from akula65 is now online here:

Sound Blaster Live! Install Retail Disc

Nice! Sharing with others is kind of what vogons is all about. And I like the credit to akula65 too. 😎 😀

I did get the BSOD with the CD images available on vogonsdrivers, updating the drivers to the latest ones available on creative website solved the issue and everything worked fine after that. But I will try this one to, thanks!