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First post, by clueless1

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Happy New Year guys!

Just got my CT2800 Vibra 16 yesterday! I used the Vibra 16 driver disks provided in the driver archive here. After setup, there are loads of things added to autoexec.bat and config.sys. I've already done some experimenting and it seems that sounds and music in games work fine with CTMMSYS.SYS commented out. I also commented DIAGNOSE.EXE and MIXERSET. My question is, what is safe to REM out and what is required? This is a purely gaming machine.

What was added to autoexec.bat:
SET SOUND=C:\VIBRA16
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E

What was added to config.sys:
DEVICE=C:\VIBRA16\DRV\VIBRA16.SYS /UNIT=0 /BLASTER=A:220 I:5 D:1 H:5
DEVICE=C:\VIBRA16\DRV\CTMMSYS.SYS

It appears digital sounds break if I REM out VIBRA16.SYS, but music still works. Both digital sounds and music seem to work with CTMMSYS.SYS REMarked out. Is it kosher to keep this commented out? I'm not even sure what CTMMSYS.SYS is for.

Lastly, I noticed that when I run DIAGNOSE.EXE, when it gets to the MPU-401 detection, I get an error telling me that 330H cannot be used. I get the same error when selecting 300H or Auto Scan. Is this because I do not have a MIDI daughterboard? Music works fine in games.

I do have a DreamBlaster S1 on its way...

Thanks!

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Reply 1 of 60, by PhilsComputerLab

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clueless1 wrote:
What was added to autoexec.bat: SET SOUND=C:\VIBRA16 SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 REM SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E […]
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What was added to autoexec.bat:
SET SOUND=C:\VIBRA16
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
REM SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E

What was added to config.sys:
DEVICE=C:\VIBRA16\DRV\VIBRA16.SYS /UNIT=0 /BLASTER=A:220 I:5 D:1 H:5
REM DEVICE=C:\VIBRA16\DRV\CTMMSYS.SYS

I think these two are not essential for playing games. But they don't hurt / take up memory either.

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Reply 2 of 60, by clueless1

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Thanks, Phil. Looks like CTMMSYS.SYS does use 10kb.

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Reply 4 of 60, by PhilsComputerLab

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clueless1 wrote:

Thanks, Phil. Looks like CTMMSYS.SYS does use 10kb.

Oh. Out it goes then 🤣

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Reply 5 of 60, by clueless1

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alexanrs wrote:

Leave the SET lines alone, remove stuff from CONFIG.SYS. This is what I usually do.

It seems if I rem out the VIBRA16.SYS line in CONFIG.SYS, sound effects stop working in games (music still works though).

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Reply 7 of 60, by clueless1

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alexanrs wrote:

Does DIAGNOSE complain about anything if VIBRA16.SYS is commented out?

Okay, making some progress. The reason digital sound weren't working with VIBRA16.SYS commented out was because I also commented out DIAGNOSE /S from AUTOEXEC.BAT. Once I re-enabled that, then sounds work without VIBRA16.SYS. Thank you, alexanrs.

I still don't understand why running DIAGNOSE.EXE (without /S) tells me that 330H is not available.

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Reply 8 of 60, by alexanrs

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Probably because it is not: Some other PnP device might be grabbing it. Still, unless you use a daughterboard or an external module this is a non-issue, as OPL3 music doesn't use the MPU-401 UART interface.

Reply 9 of 60, by clueless1

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alexanrs wrote:

Probably because it is not: Some other PnP device might be grabbing it. Still, unless you use a daughterboard or an external module this is a non-issue, as OPL3 music doesn't use the MPU-401 UART interface.

Alright. I do have a DreamBlaster S1 on its way, so I will have to fix this. First stop is the BIOS. Thanks, alexanrs!

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Reply 10 of 60, by clueless1

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Is there a way to see what is using 330H? I haven't had any luck in the BIOS yet.

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Reply 11 of 60, by PhilsComputerLab

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You can try Ultimate Boot CD, it some diagnostic programs that might help.

But could you tell us a bit more about the PC?

What is inside?

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Reply 12 of 60, by clueless1

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Hey Phil,

It is a Packard Bell C110 Multimedia. the only cards are a PCI Voodoo3 2000 and the ISA CT2800 Vibra. Other than that, there is a hdd and optical and floppy drive. I've tried two different ISA slots. I will next remove the Voodoo3 and use onboard VGA.

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Reply 13 of 60, by PhilsComputerLab

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The drives are all IDE?

But it's an OEM machine. I'm thinking SCSI or Ethernet.

Check the BIOS and see if you can disable any on-board resources that you aren't using.

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Reply 14 of 60, by clueless1

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I've already done that: Serial A and B and Parallel are disabled.

Yes, the drives are both IDE.

Maybe a dumb question: but might I need to first have a daughterboard plugged in for 330H to be recognized in DIAGNOSE.EXE?

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Reply 16 of 60, by clueless1

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There are interesting settings in the bios that I am not familiar with but might be related to this.

Under Advanced Chipset there is ISA LFB Size. Dafault is Disabled. The other option is 1MB. If you enable this, then ISA LFB Base Address appears with a greyed out value of 15MB.

Under Plug and Play, configuration mode can be Use ICU (ISA Configuration Utility) or Use Setup Utility. When set to Use ICU, then Boot With PnP OS becomes available, with options for Win95 (Default), Other, and None. When set to Use Setup Utility, then an option for ISA Shared Memory Size appears with options ranging from 16KB to 96KB, or Disabled. If you pick a value (say 16KB) then you can select an ISA Shared Memory Base Address. The higher the memory size, the fewer options there are for base address. Lastly, when Configuration Mode is set to Use Setup Utility, options appear for IRQs 3-11 to set as Available, or Used By ISA Card.

I've tried various combinations of settings with no luck so far.

Oh, and I removed the PCI Video Card and am using onboard video. No change. 🙁

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Reply 17 of 60, by gdjacobs

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Did the Aztech modem/sound card come with the C110 from factory or does it have modem and sound on board?

Edit: Found my answer in your other thread.

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Reply 18 of 60, by clueless1

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As far as I know, the C110 came from the factory with the Aztech. There are no integrated ports for modem or sound.

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Reply 19 of 60, by alexanrs

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The ISA LFB thing is for ISA VBE2+ graphics cards. It should be disabled in your case.
Anyway, do games with a sound setup/test utility (Duke Nukem and Warcraft II are good examples) succeed if you set them to use General Midi (and providing the correct port) instead of Sound Blaster/Adlib/OPL3? Or do they display an error message about being unable to initialize the MPU-401 interface?