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First post, by adalbert

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Hello,
i have a Siemens-Nixdorf PCD 4ND notebook, with 75MHz Intel DX4, 20 mb ram, trackball, and ES688 with genuine Yamaha OPL3. And WD90...something 1MB graphics card + 10.2 inch TFT screen. Great DOS machine, extremely well built, easy to disassemble (for example you can detach entire screen using 3 screws, and it doesn't use any cables - almost like in modern tablet-convertible notebooks 😜)

Unfortunately, I can't get Prehistorik 2 to work using standard system settings - it starts up, with sound and everything, the demo on the startup screen works, but when I load the first level, everything works, until I press any key. If i want to move the caveman, screen gets frozen and music continues to play. I could get the game to fully work only when I disabled cache memory in BIOS - but it has performance of 286 in such situation.
I also tried to install Orinoco Gold wifi PC card in DOS, but the system reboots when the driver gets loaded (only when the card is inside). I also have 2 additional PCD-4ND notebooks I got for parts with damaged screens, and they have the same issues.

I also have PCD-5ND, which is identical notebook, but with Pentium 1 90MHz CPU - and everything works there.

Do you know if there is a way to fix these issues? Is it a manufacturing issue, reproduced in every unit, or could that be bad caps somehow, or bad cache? (but again it would have to be broken in all of the notebooks). Maybe that could be fixed by using some kind of memory manager? (but I tried several oftware configurations, including dos 6.22 with and without himem, win 95 boot disk and Prehistorik 2 from several sources, several BIOS versions, and also several versions of Orinoco drivers - in the best case it throws a 0009 error code, and the WiFi card is activated, but the internet is not working).

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Reply 1 of 6, by matze79

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Could you try to boot a small netbsd install and see if the card works there ?
i can confirm this card works fine on NetBSD with the PCD 4ND.
i used this a long time ago ~ aproximal 10 years ago..

unplugging the card or plugging it in within netbsd whas prone to fail.
it has to be connected before power on to work fine.

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Reply 3 of 6, by matze79

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. If i want to move the caveman, screen gets frozen and music continues to play. I could get the game to fully work only when I disabled cache memory in BIOS - but it has performance of 286 in such situation.

maybe you need replacment cache chips ? and your sram fails ? L1 or L2 Cache

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Reply 4 of 6, by sledge

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Interesting!

I fired up my Siemens Nixdorf PCD 4ND (DX2/50MHz, 20MB) and I have same problem as you - Prehistorik 2 works OK until I touch keyboard, then it freezes. Everything else I've played worked flawlessly so far, so I don't think it's caused by bad capacitors or other faulty components.

I guess PCD 4ND and Prehistorik 2 just dont like each other for whatever reason 😀

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Reply 5 of 6, by adalbert

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Small update: i managed to find a workaround for this issue, just use that utility: http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?file … &menustate=51,0
it disables cache memory without rebooting the PC. So just create a batch file like:
icd
pre2
ice
... and it will disable cache just before the game is launched, then it will turn it on again.

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ISA Wi-fi + USB in T3200SXC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX30t3lYezs
GUI programming for Windows 3.11 (the easy way): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6L272OApVg

Reply 6 of 6, by dr_st

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sledge wrote:

I fired up my Siemens Nixdorf PCD 4ND (DX2/50MHz, 20MB) and I have same problem as you - Prehistorik 2 works OK until I touch keyboard, then it freezes.

It's a common issue with Prehistorik 2. I remember it being quite a buggy game to get running, very finicky about hardware configurations. I've definitely experienced this exact symptom, but not sure on which system and when (definitely wasn't a PCD 4ND).

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