I'm trying to find some drivers for my Gateway TBR3 I'm using as a basis for a P3 build, but I can't find drivers anywhere online and Gateway's website doesn't seem to have them anymore.
I did a quick search and ended up on the Gateway site itself. At first glance it appears it's not there anymore, but I haven't really searched very thoroughly.
I'm not a Gateway specialist, could you tell more about your system and where you have already looked for drivers?
Often I find it easier to search for drivers by searching using the motherboard's model number instead of the OEM system model number, the model number of your board should be on your motherboard somewhere.
Apparently yours is a Slot 1 board. Is it a 440BX board?
wrote:I did a quick search and ended up on the Gateway site itself. At first glance it appears it's not there anymore, but I haven't r […]
I did a quick search and ended up on the Gateway site itself. At first glance it appears it's not there anymore, but I haven't really searched very thoroughly.
I'm not a Gateway specialist, could you tell more about your system and where you have already looked for drivers?
Often I find it easier to search for drivers by searching using the motherboard's model number instead of the OEM system model number, the model number of your board should be on your motherboard somewhere.Apparently yours is a Slot 1 board. Is it a 440BX board?
Turns out its an Intel E139761 with a 440BX, but that doesn't seem to be yielding any better results, as Intel's site doesn't appear to have drivers for it and any driver website I've looked on seems to only have ethernet and sound drivers even though it doesn't have it built in. I did try accessing Gateway's FTP with a supposedly working login, but that didn't work.
Perhaps you should try finding generic drivers first and see if they work.
There might be some onboard stuff on you Gateway mobo which may still not get recognized, but you might still be able to install drivers, provided you (again) try and search for generic drivers.
Personally if I have troubles with, say, the onboard sound, I just plug in a SB Live or whatever seems appropriate, install drivers for the added sound card (disable anything onboard in the BIOS if you don't intent to use it) and call it a day 😁
wrote:Perhaps you should try finding generic drivers first and see if they work.
There might be some onboard stuff on you Gateway mobo which may still not get recognized, but you might still be able to install drivers, provided you (again) try and search for generic drivers.
Personally if I have troubles with, say, the onboard sound, I just plug in a SB Live or whatever seems appropriate, install drivers for the added sound card (disable anything onboard in the BIOS if you don't intent to use it) and call it a day 😁
I do have an SB Live, but it doesn't seem to be detected by any drivers i try installing on any OS or in any computer I've tried it in (the Gateway is currently running W98SE, but I've tried it under W2k and XP, in different computers and it still Isn't detected)
wrote:wrote:Perhaps you should try finding generic drivers first and see if they work.
There might be some onboard stuff on you Gateway mobo which may still not get recognized, but you might still be able to install drivers, provided you (again) try and search for generic drivers.
Personally if I have troubles with, say, the onboard sound, I just plug in a SB Live or whatever seems appropriate, install drivers for the added sound card (disable anything onboard in the BIOS if you don't intent to use it) and call it a day 😁I do have an SB Live, but it doesn't seem to be detected by any drivers i try installing on any OS or in any computer I've tried it in (the Gateway is currently running W98SE, but I've tried it under W2k and XP, in different computers and it still Isn't detected)
Could be your live is one of many OEM variants. Some people had trouble getting the Creative drivers installed (this is actually quite common) because their Live cards were OEM.
I don't know for sure, but afaicr the OEM ones have a part number starting with "SB" (like "SB0060" and such) while the retail ones would have a part number starting with "CT". Another thing to look for is if your Sound Blaster has any of those odd white connectors (often near the top of the PCB), many of those were OEM ones.
Could you please give me the model number of your Live card?
I think there was a Live driver on Vogonsdriver, after you determined the model number of your sound card, you could give that driver a go, but I'm pretty sure other "unofficial" drivers for these Lives exist.
wrote:Could be your live is one of many OEM variants. Some people had trouble getting the Creative drivers installed (this is actually […]
wrote:wrote:Perhaps you should try finding generic drivers first and see if they work.
There might be some onboard stuff on you Gateway mobo which may still not get recognized, but you might still be able to install drivers, provided you (again) try and search for generic drivers.
Personally if I have troubles with, say, the onboard sound, I just plug in a SB Live or whatever seems appropriate, install drivers for the added sound card (disable anything onboard in the BIOS if you don't intent to use it) and call it a day 😁I do have an SB Live, but it doesn't seem to be detected by any drivers i try installing on any OS or in any computer I've tried it in (the Gateway is currently running W98SE, but I've tried it under W2k and XP, in different computers and it still Isn't detected)
Could be your live is one of many OEM variants. Some people had trouble getting the Creative drivers installed (this is actually quite common) because their Live cards were OEM.
I don't know for sure, but afaicr the OEM ones have a part number starting with "SB" (like "SB0060" and such) while the retail ones would have a part number starting with "CT". Another thing to look for is if your Sound Blaster has any of those odd white connectors (often near the top of the PCB), many of those were OEM ones.
Could you please give me the model number of your Live card?
I think there was a Live driver on Vogonsdriver, after you determined the model number of your sound card, you could give that driver a go, but I'm pretty sure other "unofficial" drivers for these Lives exist.
It's a CT4780 and its got black connectors on top so i doubt its an OEM one.
EDIT: It all of the sudden decided to finally work, not sure what I did but Windows finally detected it.
wrote:It's a CT4780 and its got black connectors on top so i doubt its an OEM one.
EDIT: It all of the sudden decided to finally work, not sure what I did but Windows finally detected it.
That's odd? So what did you do differently this time?
wrote:wrote:It's a CT4780 and its got black connectors on top so i doubt its an OEM one.
EDIT: It all of the sudden decided to finally work, not sure what I did but Windows finally detected it.That's odd? So what did you do differently this time?
Honestly, I really don't know, it worked for a bit and seems to have stopped working again.
EDIT: I had tried to get my SB16 working in there, and plugged the CD audio cable into the wrong header, and yes that seems to be what makes it work and what makes it not work. It's strange how it wont even work if I don't even have a CD audio cable into it.
wrote:wrote:wrote:It's a CT4780 and its got black connectors on top so i doubt its an OEM one.
EDIT: It all of the sudden decided to finally work, not sure what I did but Windows finally detected it.That's odd? So what did you do differently this time?
Honestly, I really don't know, it worked for a bit and seems to have stopped working again.
EDIT: I had tried to get my SB16 working in there, and plugged the CD audio cable into the wrong header, and yes that seems to be what makes it work and what makes it not work. It's strange how it wont even work if I don't even have a CD audio cable into it.
Could be. I have actually had stuff happen that somehow fixed some issues for no reason I could understand. I'd rather know how it got fixed, but I guess this is part of "computer-logics" or something 😜
wrote:wrote:I did a quick search and ended up on the Gateway site itself. At first glance it appears it's not there anymore, but I haven't r […]
I did a quick search and ended up on the Gateway site itself. At first glance it appears it's not there anymore, but I haven't really searched very thoroughly.
I'm not a Gateway specialist, could you tell more about your system and where you have already looked for drivers?
Often I find it easier to search for drivers by searching using the motherboard's model number instead of the OEM system model number, the model number of your board should be on your motherboard somewhere.Apparently yours is a Slot 1 board. Is it a 440BX board?
Turns out its an Intel E139761 with a 440BX, but that doesn't seem to be yielding any better results, as Intel's site doesn't appear to have drivers for it and any driver website I've looked on seems to only have ethernet and sound drivers even though it doesn't have it built in. I did try accessing Gateway's FTP with a supposedly working login, but that didn't work.
Though they get used that way the "E" numbers are not really model numbers.
You need to know the actual model name or number to find anything at Intel.
For old Intel boards the BIOS string can help with model ID, please give it.
"AA" numbers are also useful.
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wrote:Though they get used that way the "E" numbers are not really model numbers. For old Intel boards the BIOS string can help with m […]
wrote:wrote:I did a quick search and ended up on the Gateway site itself. At first glance it appears it's not there anymore, but I haven't r […]
I did a quick search and ended up on the Gateway site itself. At first glance it appears it's not there anymore, but I haven't really searched very thoroughly.
I'm not a Gateway specialist, could you tell more about your system and where you have already looked for drivers?
Often I find it easier to search for drivers by searching using the motherboard's model number instead of the OEM system model number, the model number of your board should be on your motherboard somewhere.Apparently yours is a Slot 1 board. Is it a 440BX board?
Turns out its an Intel E139761 with a 440BX, but that doesn't seem to be yielding any better results, as Intel's site doesn't appear to have drivers for it and any driver website I've looked on seems to only have ethernet and sound drivers even though it doesn't have it built in. I did try accessing Gateway's FTP with a supposedly working login, but that didn't work.
Though they get used that way the "E" numbers are not really model numbers.
For old Intel boards the BIOS string can help with model ID, please give it.
"AA" numbers are also useful.
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Just to add: Sometimes with these OEM boards (or at least of that era) the model number was actually not silkscreened with "white ink", but "embedded" in the PCB itself. I noticed this when I couldn't find anything on some OEM s370 board of mine and in the end I figured out that the long "string" on the PCB itself is actually the model number (I couldn't find anything about it till I went looking for only the first part of the string instead of the entire string).
Also the Gateway part number like "4000501" can help.
I think the board is named Tabor 3 at Gateway but Gateway would sometimes switch OEM builders for the same board name between revisions so that isn't always helpful without the part number.
For a time I was recapping a lot of gateway E3400 systems for someone and those came with at least 7 different versions of the motherboard.
The later ones had a completely different south bridge. Same Gateway board name. Different Gateway part number.
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The Gateway P/N on the board is 4000510 and it seems that the SB live has decided not to work again.
Dont know if this could be helpfull for you:
http://web.archive.org/web/20011202103545/htt … ils/index.shtml
http://web.archive.org/web/19991128232726/htt … rd/sysboard.htm
Do you maybe have more information on your system?
What OS does it use, which timeframe this system was sold..This would help the searching a lot easier, if we know on which patterns we have to look for.
~ At least it can do black and white~
wrote:Dont know if this could be helpfull for you: […]
Dont know if this could be helpfull for you:
http://web.archive.org/web/20011202103545/htt … ils/index.shtml
http://web.archive.org/web/19991128232726/htt … rd/sysboard.htm
Do you maybe have more information on your system?
What OS does it use, which timeframe this system was sold..This would help the searching a lot easier, if we know on which patterns we have to look for.
That doesn't seem to have the drivers for this mobo, it shipped with W98 and i have W98SE currently on it, build date says 8/27/98.
wrote:The Gateway P/N on the board is 4000510 and it seems that the SB live has decided not to work again.
The Gateway name was Tabor 3, R1.
https://panam.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/INTEL/40 … 4000510nv.shtml
Please confirm this is it.
https://panam.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/INTEL/40 … 400051001.shtml
I'm not going to find much more out without the AA number or the BIOS string I asked for.
That should lead to any BIOS updates there are.
You aren't likely to find a premade driver package for this. Gateway doesn't do that support for it anymore.
You need to create your own driver package.
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wrote:The Gateway name was Tabor 3, R1. https://panam.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/INTEL/40 … 4000510nv.shtml […]
wrote:The Gateway P/N on the board is 4000510 and it seems that the SB live has decided not to work again.
The Gateway name was Tabor 3, R1.
https://panam.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/INTEL/40 … 4000510nv.shtmlPlease confirm this is it.
https://panam.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/INTEL/40 … 400051001.shtmlI'm not going to find much more out without the AA number or the BIOS string I asked for.
That should lead to any BIOS updates there are.You aren't likely to find a premade driver package for this. Gateway doesn't do that support for it anymore.
You need to create your own driver package.
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Yeah that's the board. I'm not too worried about BIOS updates, but I'd like to just find the drivers for it.
~ At least it can do black and white~
wrote:Yeah that's the board. I'm not too worried about BIOS updates, but I'd like to just find the drivers for it.
As I said - You need to create your own driver package.
There are no proprietary Gateway drivers for that. They are all standard.
Additionally Gateway only supported it for W95 and NT4 - which you aren't using.
All this next would have been easier and faster to find if you answered my questions earlier.
The board is an Intel Warm Springs WS440BX.
The TPS is here: http://s3.amazonaws.com/zanran_storage/www.tc … es/47015946.pdf
That is for the full Intel version with sound. You have the stripped down Gateway version.
There may be other things your version doesn't have.
Working link to the BIOS here: http://panam.gateway.com/support/drivers/getF … 4&uid=477283335
The BIOS might be important as you are using OSs newer than the board.
For the motherboard all you should need drivers for are.. the Chipset - Intel Ultra ATA driver - AGP driver.
Newer than original OSs may already contain the last two.
Any others will depend on what add-in cards you have in it.
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