I have noticed this too I think other cards may be more popular because its easier to find high end AGP 1.5V motherboards than it is to find high end AGP 3.3V motherboards. Hope the V5500s keep coming I have been wanting to get a replacement since my old one went up in a cloud of smoke maybe some decent priced ones will show up soon.

that was a big problem for the Voodoo 5 5500, no AGP 1.5v support or slow PCI speed (and the nice thing about the v4 4500 AGP4x)
but, I would also think that the hardware failure rate was higher for cards like the Radeon 9800 than it was for the 5500?

Well, my limited and anecdotal experience does seem to suggest that high-end cards fail more than mid-range cards. But I'd think Voodoo 5 itself is pretty high-end (for its generation of course).

SPBHM wrote:

that was a big problem for the Voodoo 5 5500, no AGP 1.5v support or slow PCI speed (and the nice thing about the v4 4500 AGP4x)

Actually the performance difference between a V5 on AGP and PCI66 is negligible.

Maybe 3DFx sold not a lot of these ? and they have a lot of NOS ?

Most ppl i know opted for a Geforce.

elianda wrote:

SPBHM wrote:

that was a big problem for the Voodoo 5 5500, no AGP 1.5v support or slow PCI speed (and the nice thing about the v4 4500 AGP4x)

Actually the performance difference between a V5 on AGP and PCI66 is negligible.

I never had a motherboard with PCI 66MHz, most boards are 33Mhz
the 5500 PCI I had was clearly bottlenecked by it, even my 4500 is,

talking about the 4500, I bought a 4500 PCI new around 2003-2005... the store still had quite a few of these in stock (and they were OEM).

Every Board with PCI 2.1 should support 66Mhz PCI ?
Or is it optional ?

Well I did see some 1.5v keyed V5 5500s on eBay a year or two ago but found that sli wouldn't work unless in a 3.3v board but yea someone must have found a cache and milking desperate collectors for all we are worth 🙁

Like come on who tries to sell a boxed V5 5500 for $500 /face palm

SPBHM wrote:

that was a big problem for the Voodoo 5 5500, no AGP 1.5v support or slow PCI speed (and the nice thing about the v4 4500 AGP4x)
but, I would also think that the hardware failure rate was higher for cards like the Radeon 9800 than it was for the 5500?

Probably due to inadequate cooling on those Radeon9800's. My 9800 gets so hot, that I do not dare use it before I have found a different solution of some sort. It's one of those Medion-9800-XXL that are running seriously hot. Superfast card never the less, for the money it's being sold for. Worth all the money I spend on it and more.

Prices are what makes them come up, they are worth the effort to sell. The Radeons and Geforces of the era are plentiful and don't command that much money (plus they have to be tested since quite a few are dead).

matze79 wrote:

Every Board with PCI 2.1 should support 66Mhz PCI ?
Or is it optional ?

Optional, you will not find it supported on motherboards for personal computers.

Putas wrote:

matze79 wrote:

Every Board with PCI 2.1 should support 66Mhz PCI ?
Or is it optional ?

Optional, you will not find it supported on motherboards for personal computers.

My old Gigabyte board with an nForce2 Ultra 400 chipset (Athlon XP) had 66MHz 32-bit PCI slots. I was running an extra gigabit network card in it for a while. The card was 32-bit 33/66MHz capable and it would happily run at 66MHz according to the Linux lspci utility. I vaguely recall all the slots being on the same bus though, so if you put a single 33MHz card in then all cards would slow to 33MHz. Certainly all the onboard devices were on an independent bus and were all running at 66MHz regardless of any PCI devices installed.

I'm guessing other boards with the same chipset could do the same. For some reason this feature was never very well advertised, I only found it by chance. But there are definitely consumer boards around that can do 66MHz PCI. But of course this isn't overclocking the bus, this is a supported mode and so cards have to be designed to support 66MHz operation, otherwise the PCI bus will just sit at 33MHz.

I've used the 5500 and the 4500 with my abit nf7s, it always ran at 33MHz, it didn't have any other PCI cards at the time I think, but if the chipset supported, perhaps it was a bios limitation or some other factor, I still have a 4500, I never actually used it at 66MHz as far as I know, I always assumed only server/workstation boards would run it at 66.