Some builds can be just plain awful, to the point you really wonder if the person who built it eventually died of a something worthy of a http://www.darwinawards.com/

I happened upon one build where they put thermal paste in the memory sockets....MEMORY SOCKET THERMAL PASTE???? Or maybe it was lithium grease? Guess putting those SDRAM memory modules in a DDR socket proves a little difficult and you need the lubrication... 😎

dogchainx wrote:

I happened upon one build where they put thermal paste in the memory sockets....MEMORY SOCKET THERMAL PASTE???? Or maybe it was lithium grease? Guess putting those SDRAM memory modules in a DDR socket proves a little difficult and you need the lubrication... 😎

see, sex education actually is useful, but haters gonna hate :>

You think that's bad, try DDR in an SDRAM socket.

Where I used to work there was this kid I was supposed to teach but he was a blithering idiot and seemed unable to learn. The boss had it set up so that he had to build a computer from pieces lying around the parts room under my instruction... That was a shitty couple of weeks, but eventually he managed to finish the build and there the machine sat on a desk in Room 3 powered up and running Windows 98SE. I was sat there thinking how great it was I wouldn't have to teach him any more of this stuff and could send him home for good when he turned around and said he wanted more RAM.
"OK, Nathan, well you know how to install RAM, so I'll leave you to do that." I said, and that was that. I walked away to get on with something more important - I seem to remember a fan had failed in the server and I needed to go and fix it - thinking the whole thing was over and done with.

It wasn't. I returned half an hour later to find him sat in front of his machine poking the system properties and device manager around. I didn't think too much to this but did worry he would break something and end up hanging around for another day, but he only seemed to be looking, so I thought he was probably just making sure it all worked. It was around this time that I sat down and noticed this sharp whistle coming from the machine, I tried to ignore it but it was pretty loud and I had to say something.
"What's making that noise?" I asked him.
"Dunno," He said, "But the RAM won't work and I've tried four sticks."
"Oh, well," I said, feeling like I couldn't be bothered, "That motherboard's a piece of shit, perhaps it doesn't support more than 128MB of RAM. It's only running 98 anyway, you probably wouldn't need more than that for Microsoft Word."
"OK," He said, "So it's done?"
"Yeah, it's done," I said, "Now I can finally see the back of you. Now fuck off."

He left and I had the job of dismantling the machine. I decided to track down the whistling and found the culprit... There were some DDR modules on the desk and I thought little of that, there were always junk parts lying around, but no. The idiot had tried to install it in the SDRAM slots and when it didn't fit he had filed the notches out of the slot so it would. How the system started I don't know and it seemed to cause a short which made everything run hot and caused the crappy PSU to whistle loudly. Fucking idiot.

He really was dumb. I remember asking him to dismantle a machine and then coming back later to find he hadn't listened to what I had taught him the previous week... He certainly dismantled it. I found a neatly ordered pile of parts including the regular stuff, PSU, motherboard. Then I found a dismantled hard drive, random assortments of metal and rivets where the case had been and the internals of a CD-ROM drive. Fucking idiot. I didn't even bother explaining to him why he had fucked up because every time I tried to teach him anything he used to get mad at me and wouldn't listen anyway.

When I think of times like that I really wish cameras had been as common or at the very least, that I had thought to violate the rules of the workplace and snap a low-res photo on my early smart phone. In the case of the OP, I find it more stupid that the original owner bought Asus, I have no idea why that stuff is so common but I am so sick of the sight of it by now that it makes me sick... Then again, what's the alternative these days? Mostly worse.

HighTreason wrote:

In the case of the OP, I find it more stupid that the original owner bought Asus, I have no idea why that stuff is so common but I am so sick of the sight of it by now that it makes me sick... Then again, what's the alternative these days? Mostly worse.

Asus can make good stuff, it's just that most of the time they choose to make crap (like most of the other manufacturers).

The Asus Commano i965P Socket-775 board is really good and the whole Asus P6T Socket-1366 series of motherboards are built like tanks and will last half a century or more.

This Asus P5ND2-SLI Deluxe do not impress but that is not only Asus fault. The Intel edition of the nForce4 chipset runs hotter than anything I have ever tinkered with before. I have a 60mm 5000 RPM fan blowing at it and I still cant touch the chipset heatsink even for a moment, its probably 80C or more. I was doing something else for a couple of hours but Im installing Windows on the test system as I write this and so far, so good.

Skyscraper wrote:

Asus can make good stuff, it's just that most of the time they choose to make crap (like most of the other manufacturers). […]
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HighTreason wrote:

In the case of the OP, I find it more stupid that the original owner bought Asus, I have no idea why that stuff is so common but I am so sick of the sight of it by now that it makes me sick... Then again, what's the alternative these days? Mostly worse.

Asus can make good stuff, it's just that most of the time they choose to make crap (like most of the other manufacturers).

The Asus Commano i965P Socket-775 board is really good and the whole Asus P6T Socket-1366 series of motherboards are built like tanks and will last half a century or more.

This Asus P5ND2-SLI Deluxe do not impress but that is not only Asus fault. The Intel edition of the nForce4 chipset runs hotter than anything I have ever tinkered with before. I have a 60mm 5000 RPM fan blowing at it and I still cant touch the chipset heatsink even for a moment, its probably 80C or more. I was doing something else for a couple of hours but Im installing Windows on the test system as I write this and so far, so good.

I know the Intel edition of the nForce4 well and boy was it Hard to overclock, even had to use a solid copper socket A cooler and a 6000 rpm fan just to get it to 341mhz or 1364fsb. I eventually gave up on the board at one point as I had played with a Pentium D 805 and it the vrms didn't hold up well. My guess is that the chipset is at least 30w or 40w 😲

nforce4max wrote:

I know the Intel edition of the nForce4 well and boy was it Hard to overclock, even had to use a solid copper socket A cooler and a 6000 rpm fan just to get it to 341mhz or 1364fsb. I eventually gave up on the board at one point as I had played with a Pentium D 805 and it the vrms didn't hold up well. My guess is that the chipset is at least 30w or 40w 😲

I think I also will need to the replace the northbridge heat sink if Im going to use this motherboard for overclocking, at least it seems stable at stock. It would not surprise me at all if the chipset draws 30-40W.

The Radeon X1950XTX worked perfectly.

Skyscraper wrote:

nforce4max wrote:

I know the Intel edition of the nForce4 well and boy was it Hard to overclock, even had to use a solid copper socket A cooler and a 6000 rpm fan just to get it to 341mhz or 1364fsb. I eventually gave up on the board at one point as I had played with a Pentium D 805 and it the vrms didn't hold up well. My guess is that the chipset is at least 30w or 40w 😲

I think I also will need to the replace the northbridge heat sink if Im going to use this motherboard for overclocking, at least it seems stable at stock. It would not surprise me at all if the chipset draws 30-40W.

The Radeon X1950XTX worked perfectly.

When it comes to time upgrade the NB cooler you are going to want to convert something big like a Socket 370 or A cooler if you got the tools on hand to drill the block as well mount the cooler. I used small little bolts and it worked pretty well but you have to be careful to not over tighten the bolts.

If you have deeper pockets I strongly recommend going liquid cooling as it will have better results.

Skyscraper wrote:

The motherboard is an Asus P5ND2-SLI Deluxe nForce4 SLI Socket 775 motherboard, I bought it because I diddnt own any nForce4 chipset motherboard for Intel CPUs.

Funny, I got that same board today.

It was a minimum bid auction and also included the two Raptor drives.

PhilsComputerLab wrote:

Skyscraper wrote:

The motherboard is an Asus P5ND2-SLI Deluxe nForce4 SLI Socket 775 motherboard, I bought it because I diddnt own any nForce4 chipset motherboard for Intel CPUs.

Funny, I got that same board today.

It was a minimum bid auction and also included the two Raptor drives.

This board should be perfect for doing a fair AMD vs Intel shout-out. 😀

It will be DDR1 vs DDR2 but that matters very little.

For Pentium D vs Athlon X2 nForce5 is probably a better choice though.

HighTreason wrote:

He certainly dismantled it. I found a neatly ordered pile of parts including the regular stuff, PSU, motherboard. Then I found a dismantled hard drive, random assortments of metal and rivets where the case had been and the internals of a CD-ROM drive.

That made me laugh! Your just lucky he didnt start unsoldering components.
People like that annoy me though, you can tell some just dont give a sh*t and are going thought the motions while doing as little and trying to get out of as much as possible.
Some people are genuinly clueless, fair enough. others just arent interested, again fair enough. but if your both dont drag me down and waste both your and my time.

HighTreason wrote:

He really was dumb. I remember asking him to dismantle a machine and then coming back later to find he hadn't listened to what I had taught him the previous week... He certainly dismantled it. I found a neatly ordered pile of parts including the regular stuff, PSU, motherboard. Then I found a dismantled hard drive, random assortments of metal and rivets where the case had been and the internals of a CD-ROM drive. Fucking idiot. I didn't even bother explaining to him why he had fucked up because every time I tried to teach him anything he used to get mad at me and wouldn't listen anyway.

Who takes the time to remove rivets, i mean thats beyond stupid that level of dumbness has no word yet.

What kind of idiot thinks that the manufacturer intended for him to file down the notches in the RAM slots, which are there for the express purpose of preventing him from installing the wrong kind of RAM? He shouldn't even have to be taught anything for him to know that. Heck, I was installing RAM, CPUs, and power supplies literally when I was seven years old, and I was pretty stupid back then. He should have known better.

keenmaster486 wrote:

What kind of idiot thinks that the manufacturer intended for him to file down the notches in the RAM slots, which are there for the express purpose of preventing him from installing the wrong kind of RAM? He shouldn't even have to be taught anything for him to know that. Heck, I was installing RAM, CPUs, and power supplies literally when I was seven years old, and I was pretty stupid back then. He should have known better.

The same sort of people are those who voted for eight years of Bush and another eight years of Obama, I absolutely dread another eight years of incompetence of Trump or God forbid Hillary. 😢
I can't even go shopping for groceries without getting annoyed by the stupidity that is around these days, the other day a store employee was dumb enough to mistake my cart as the "return" cart and tried to take a package of steaks (WTF) 😠
The worst part of any day is commuting back and forth, people are so SLOW getting through lights and signs! I can't stand idiots who don't understand when someone moves onto the shoulder that they want someone to pass but are so clueless they just tailgate for the next several minutes until they "figure it out" or rage. I despise people that tailgate even when already over the speed limit and the other lane is open...

Sorry for morning rant 🤣

Hi
I have a P5N32SLI-SE Deluxe that it never worked!
Tonight almost tried again, I just found a Pentium 4 640 for test.
The card was purchased used many years ago from a monkey.

nforce4max wrote:

The same sort of people are those who voted for eight years of Bush and another eight years of Obama, I absolutely dread another eight years of incompetence of Trump or God forbid Hillary.

Aye. No wonder a conversation about idiots turns to the government... 🤣

nforce4max wrote:

The worst part of any day is commuting back and forth, people are so SLOW getting through lights and signs!

No kidding! I live in a town of about 40,000 people, and just in the last two months it seems like the population has doubled, the traffic has gotten so bad so fast. Nobody in my family can explain it, except that suddenly aliens came down to earth, dropped 20,000 extra people on the town, and zapped them with "stupidity" rays. 😉
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hwswITA wrote:

The card was purchased used many years ago from a monkey.

What kind of monkey? Chimpanzee? Lemur? Maybe his job was reproducing the works of Shakespeare... 😁

About 25 years ago, I was working at Namco in the fast track for a lower echelon officer position. While learn the ropes required game maintenance, diagnostics, repairs, modification, and rebuilding/kitting, out it was pretty easy to pick up. Or so I thought. It was the first time I had been in a job that stupid people could be allowed to make $30,000.00+ mistakes. I still remember coming into work one day to find out that a not too tech savy employee had used razors and cutters on some molex connectors to get a twin linked Suzaka 8 hours setup going from repairs to one units PSU. Needless to say, it fried all the logic boards, every bike sensor, and 2 monitors. Bang, over $40k in damage with the flick of a switch by a single moron. I spent the next 2 weeks rebuilding both systems and the company lost at least a couple grand from game down time. Had another idiot rewire several games with all one color wire (yellow if you must know) because he thought it looked cleaner to have one color. The nightmare of maintenance on a jamma harness that is all yellow is enough to drive somebody to kill, let alone a half dozen machines. It drove me nuts. Then I discovered that technicians and engineers don't work well together. Had one guy who was about to graduate with his electronics engineering degree who simply could not figure out how to use a soldering iron to save his life. Every single joint he made was about .5mm in diameter and used 8 to 10 inches if solder. Ever seen a 20 pin dip with 20 blobs of solder that were bigger than the package? Wait till you see an entire logic board rebuilt that way. One single PCB that the majority of a half pound reel of solder. This was from somebody who was about two months from his master's degree in electronics engineering.

Since then I've seen amazing acts of stupidity. Even watched a quarter million dollar server fall through an incorrectly built rack, taking out have the company network for two days (we had about 2 thousand people who did nothing for almost 48 hours). In the end, it cost over half a million in damage and down time because someone didn't read the manual when building a new rack.