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First post, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Well i finally got around to tearing down a system that im confident will never run again and found this particular soundblaster card. Couldnt find very much information on it. The term vibra16 comes up alot but im not sure what that means. Anybody got an idea what this cards story is? They seem kind of uncommon, or an unpopular model at the very least.

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Some tool put this in the same chassis as a Trident TVGA 8900C (Which blew) and Twin Pentiums (Which may have blown) and 48MB of RAM... Bottleneck city...

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Reply 1 of 16, by keropi

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CT2830 , it's a SB16 , real OPL3 chip, jumpers for resources... what's there to know? it's a good card
seems to be the same as CT2230 but with an standard IDE interface and not connectors for specific cd-rom models

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Reply 2 of 16, by stamasd

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Can't see the DSP version in that image. If it's 4.05 or earlier you may have a card without the hanging note bug.

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 3 of 16, by brostenen

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It's a nice card for 486/P-1 systems. Looks like a good card.

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Reply 5 of 16, by stamasd

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You mean the ASP/CSP socket? It's quite common on pre-Vibra SB cards. My CT2290 has it.

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 6 of 16, by gdjacobs

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Aha. Didn't realize that anybody gave enough of a crap about the ASP for it to come as a TSOP upgrade chip.

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Reply 7 of 16, by stamasd

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Nobody outside Creative did. Which is why on the vast majority of the cards that have the socket, it is empty. 😀

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 8 of 16, by brostenen

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Creative was pretty hot, on making it a selling point. That's what I mostly remember from back in the days.
Yet I do not really remember anyone showing something that made them chips desireable.

Perhaps anyone reading this, can explain why it would be an advantage to have that chip versus not having it?

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Reply 9 of 16, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Thats not MY card, same model. Just a image i grabbed since i didnt feel like copying the image off of my phone. HERE is MY card in the highest possible image reselution this forum can correctly display

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Ultra high res image here http://s22.postimg.org/fmthx1ocf/IMG_20160405_145604.jpg

If anyones wondering why its still hooked into the PC, i cant disconnect it without breaking the slot that cable is in.

Would have posted this sooner but i just found out my grandmother, whom i live with (Im the youngest non-troll member of this forum at 16) along with my grandfather, died 4 hours ago so im not really keeping tabs on my various threads across here and VCfed. Sorry for the confusion regarding the image.

Cochrane out.

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Reply 10 of 16, by stamasd

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Sorry to hear about your grandmother. My condolences.

It looks like your card has DSP 4.13 (same as mine) and thus it will have the hanging note bug as described here: http://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/Hanging_note_bug
Still a very good card if you know its limitations.

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 11 of 16, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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stamasd wrote:

Sorry to hear about your grandmother. My condolences.

It looks like your card has DSP 4.13 (same as mine) and thus it will have the hanging note bug as described here: http://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/Hanging_note_bug
Still a very good card if you know its limitations.

Its not on the affected list but again im guessing this is due to the card being uncommon so ill differ to your superior knowledge.

The only game using the aforementioned engines in that article before the PC that is in blew out its mainboard chipset was Redneck Rampage: The Early Years and it ran like it was on a 386 (2-3FPS @ 640x480, and this is on Twin 90MHZ Pentiums and 48MB of RAM) because of that Trident SVGA (again, i need to find out what dipshit decided a 5000 dollar at the time, twin pentium, machine would be an appropriate match that PoS video card... intel GMA of the 90s...) but no audio bugs. Was actually kind of amazed how good the sound was. I also have a Quad Speed Creative Labs MPC2 Branded CD Drive for this. SoundBlaster CD. Listened to some John Fogerty albums on that once just because my RetroPC was what i had booted at the time, ended up sounding better than my X-Fi Go! Pro.

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Reply 13 of 16, by shamino

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brostenen wrote:

Creative was pretty hot, on making it a selling point. That's what I mostly remember from back in the days.
Yet I do not really remember anyone showing something that made them chips desireable.

Perhaps anyone reading this, can explain why it would be an advantage to have that chip versus not having it?

For a short blip of time in the 90s I used "Creative ADPCM" to compress some music files in .wav format. This was just before I came around to mp3. It apparently used the ASP chip because I noticed it would compress/decompress much faster than the "Microsoft ADPCM" option.
So yeah - hardware accelerated delta PCM! Exciting stuff indeed.
That's all I knowingly ever utilized that chip for. I don't know if it did anything actually useful.

Today, I still have a few old .wav files (not music) in my /wav/ folder that I can't play because I apparently compressed them on my old AWE32 card. Whenever I see them I figure someday I'll decompress them when I have a compatible sound card installed, but that never really happens.

Reply 15 of 16, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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MrEWhite wrote:
TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

(Im the youngest non-troll member of this forum at 16)

I'm 14 😜 And couldn't you just take a pocket knife or something and break the plastic around the cable?

Why yes certainly if i wanted to break the card, the cable, or at best have the plug jammed in its slot with no wire to help me grip it.

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Reply 16 of 16, by gdjacobs

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I hate those plugs, and Creative always used them. I've got some on a Jazz16 card as well. Nothing but internal tabs and no way to grip it but to hold the cable, wiggle, and pray.

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