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First post, by Carlos S. M.

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I recently got an old IBM xSeries 220 for 4 € from a guy who has several stuff for scrap, i wanted to try old server hardware and found the IBM and probably some other servers as well.

When i looked closely, it turned out the server has two Tualatin based Pentium III-S 1.40 GHz with the S-Spec SL6BY and 3 GB PC133R ECC, but had some issues/limitations:
1- One of the VRMs were faulty and the Second CPU is not enabled (i tried swaping the 2 VRMs between the 2 sockets and only worked the socket with the good VRM)
2- The server came without SCSI HDDs, only an IDE HDD on the 5.25 bay on a ATA-33 Controller
3- Lack of AGP slots for graphics cards (i already expected that though)
4- Only supports registried RAM, PC133R ECC to be exact
5- The third RAM stick were damaged, so i had to lower the RAM to 2 GB which is still plenity for a Pentium III
6- CPU-Z hangs the OS when i try running it (at the detection complete stage, is the only program that hangs the PC though)

I plan to do the follwoing changes/upgrades:
1- Buy the SCSI caddies and some 36-73 GB SCSI HDDs and dtich the IDE HDD(i already found it on ebay) - done
2- Get a new VRM for the second CPU - done
3- Get a PCI videocard (Geforce 2 MX or better) for the server
4- Add a soundcard (done, used an old Creative Sounblaster PCI128 CT5880)
5- Reacoditionation and cleanup of the case
6- Swap CD with DVD Drive

Btw. Is the first time i post in Vogons and i'm from Canary Islands, Spain

What do you think about this server? I plan to do some testings with Windows XP and Linux, also some stuff i still plan doing on the server

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Last edited by Carlos S. M. on 2016-06-09, 19:20. Edited 1 time in total.

What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?
Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots
LGA 775 Motherboards with AGP Slots
Experiences and thoughts with Socket 423 systems

Reply 1 of 11, by brassicGamer

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This is special. And well done for noticing it. I wonder how many dual Tully systems have gone to the scrappers! Looking forward to seeing the finished article.

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Reply 2 of 11, by luckybob

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always love the dual cpu systems. Great one to cut your teeth on. Be careful, OEMs loved making servers with proprietary accessories. IBM and Dell are notorious for this. Common parts will be standard, but expect things like VRMs and such to be special snowflakes that command a premium. As for doing something with it, I turned my dual tualatin into a homemade router. I was able to isolate all my old machines from the rest of my network and keep them accessible to the internet.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 3 of 11, by Carlos S. M.

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Yes, i noticied about the propietary parts, also i might go to the same place again since i think the guy has another (partial) xSeries 220 which i might get as replacement parts for the current one

Also i managed to run CPU-Z on that thing, i had to disable the sensor in CPU-Z.ini, so there are some missing info. ADIA64 and Passmark PerfomanceTest v8 runs without issues.

The chipset is an ServerWorks ServerSet III LE and the SCSI controller is an Adaptec AIC-7892B Ultra160 , network controller is an Intel PRO/100S (Intel 82550EY)

I know Passmark is not a good way to bench an old system, but this is what it scored with the current config and only 1 CPU enabled (still no VRM for CPU2)
CPU - 288 (Normal for a single P3-S)
CPU Single Thread - 415 (Normal for P3-S)
2D - 27 (Too low, probably by the slow videocard)
3D - 0 (Failed to run all the tests due to not enough VRAM, the S3 Savage4 Pro is DirectX 6.0 chip)
RAM - 132 (Good score for SDR PC133 SDRAM)
HDD - 24 (Terrible score even for an IDE HDD, mainly due to a bad IDE controller, i really need SCSI HDDs)

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What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?
Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots
LGA 775 Motherboards with AGP Slots
Experiences and thoughts with Socket 423 systems

Reply 4 of 11, by Carlos S. M.

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CPU-Z screenshots (1 CPU). There are some missing data since the sensor setting is disabled (enabled makes the whole system frezze)

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What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?
Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots
LGA 775 Motherboards with AGP Slots
Experiences and thoughts with Socket 423 systems

Reply 5 of 11, by chinny22

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Also a sucker for Duel CPU systems 😀 Getting quite a collection now
I was surprised how well most of my 98 games worked in Win2k. my duel P3 600 is my main 9x box now

If you have any voodoo cards the lack of AGP will probably hurt less? I like having a SLI in an SMP machine, 2 CPU's 2 Voodoo'2, you could even set up raid and have 2 HDD's (I didn't go that crazy)

Reply 6 of 11, by Carlos S. M.

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chinny22 wrote:

Also a sucker for Duel CPU systems 😀 Getting quite a collection now
I was surprised how well most of my 98 games worked in Win2k. my duel P3 600 is my main 9x box now

If you have any voodoo cards the lack of AGP will probably hurt less? I like having a SLI in an SMP machine, 2 CPU's 2 Voodoo'2, you could even set up raid and have 2 HDD's (I didn't go that crazy)

Well, i have a Voodoo 2 8 MB laying here, but i don't have the loop cable since i found the card alone months ago. I had a Voodoo 3 3000 PCI, but the card stopped working sadly. The server officially supports PCI VGA as well

What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?
Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots
LGA 775 Motherboards with AGP Slots
Experiences and thoughts with Socket 423 systems

Reply 7 of 11, by chinny22

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Any standard vga male to female cable will work.
You can plug a monitor directly into the voodoo 2, especially if your monitor has 2 inputs, say VGA and DVI.
People do that round here as it can give cleaner graphics.

Reply 8 of 11, by CelGen

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I use one as the front-end for my file server. Low power and very quiet. They aren't really the best for general computer and gaming use though. A lot of what makes it a server is wasted.

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Reply 9 of 11, by Carlos S. M.

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Update:
The SCSI HDD and the VRM came. I installed both and installed the OS on the new HDD, older IDE HDD was removed

CPU 2 is now recorgnized and enabled.

What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?
Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots
LGA 775 Motherboards with AGP Slots
Experiences and thoughts with Socket 423 systems

Reply 10 of 11, by brassicGamer

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Carlos S. M. wrote:

Update:
The SCSI HDD and the VRM came. I installed both and installed the OS on the new HDD, older IDE HDD was removed

CPU 2 is now recorgnized and enabled.

That's amazing! Great work 😀 fantastic to see another special system saved from the gold scrappers

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Reply 11 of 11, by Carlos S. M.

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Update (24th June 2016):
Added PCI USB 2.0 Card (NEC based).
Replaced Windows XP with Windows Server 2003 Enterprise.

The still is still going strong and the next part i might get will be a PCI videocard

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Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots
LGA 775 Motherboards with AGP Slots
Experiences and thoughts with Socket 423 systems