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First post, by MrEWhite

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Hey, I am having an issue with this IBM PPro PC. Basically, I cannot use a hard drive bigger than around 8.4 GB as it always shows that size when I use a bigger one. Now, in an earlier BIOS update, it says that it removed a limit of 4.2 GB which I found here, http://greyghost.mooo.com/pccbbs/commercial_d … top/lujt40a.txt. It states that, "Greater than 4.2GB IDE hard disk support added". So, is there anyway to remove this 8.4GB limit? I am using the latest BIOS.

Reply 5 of 19, by brostenen

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In search of info on the IBM that I found today, I have come across this document.
Perhaps something that you have any use for?

http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/dwbook.pdf

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Reply 6 of 19, by MrEWhite

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mrau wrote:

scsi?

Nah it's IDE.

brostenen wrote:

In search of info on the IBM that I found today, I have come across this document.
Perhaps something that you have any use for?

http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/dwbook.pdf

So, from what I'm reading there, shouldn't the max be 33.6 GB? My 20 GB still has it showing 8.4GB in the BIOS.

Reply 7 of 19, by brostenen

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MrEWhite wrote:

So, from what I'm reading there, shouldn't the max be 33.6 GB? My 20 GB still has it showing 8.4GB in the BIOS.

That I don't know. I just thought that the document could serve as some referance info. 😀

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Reply 8 of 19, by MrEWhite

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brostenen wrote:
MrEWhite wrote:

So, from what I'm reading there, shouldn't the max be 33.6 GB? My 20 GB still has it showing 8.4GB in the BIOS.

That I don't know. I just thought that the document could serve as some referance info. 😀

It does say 4.2, so again, I think in that BIOS update they just doubled the max capacity.

Reply 10 of 19, by MrEWhite

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nforce4max wrote:

If yours is anything like mine the limit is 6GB for whatever reason and other people have encountered this with theirs.

It's actually 8.4GB I'm pretty sure though, do you have the same machine?

Reply 11 of 19, by nforce4max

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MrEWhite wrote:
nforce4max wrote:

If yours is anything like mine the limit is 6GB for whatever reason and other people have encountered this with theirs.

It's actually 8.4GB I'm pretty sure though, do you have the same machine?

I got two 365XD and only found out about the issue last year when digging around on the old thinkpad forums, normally the limit would be 8gb but IBM did something that reduced the limit to 6gb. Why that is I have no idea could be the bios or it could be something else and I didn't bother to test the fence with this one.

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Reply 12 of 19, by SquallStrife

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MrEWhite wrote:
Errius wrote:

I'm still confused on how they just doubled the original instead of removing it.

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/sizeGB8-c.html

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Reply 13 of 19, by MrEWhite

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SquallStrife wrote:
MrEWhite wrote:
Errius wrote:

I'm still confused on how they just doubled the original instead of removing it.

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/sizeGB8-c.html

Ah, I see now.

Reply 17 of 19, by Maximin

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I'm having BIOS version lujt43a on a such machine and haven't seen any limitations to HDD size.
I got even 320gb (via PCI SATA adapter) recognized in BIOS and working perfectly.
40Gb over internal ATA works OK too. But It's too silly - Multiword DMA Mode 2 only - 16.7mb/sec.

BTW, if you not far from me, I can provide some help with memory modules. I have a few spare...

Reply 18 of 19, by MrEWhite

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Maximin wrote:
I'm having BIOS version lujt43a on a such machine and haven't seen any limitations to HDD size. I got even 320gb (via PCI SATA a […]
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I'm having BIOS version lujt43a on a such machine and haven't seen any limitations to HDD size.
I got even 320gb (via PCI SATA adapter) recognized in BIOS and working perfectly.
40Gb over internal ATA works OK too. But It's too silly - Multiword DMA Mode 2 only - 16.7mb/sec.

BTW, if you not far from me, I can provide some help with memory modules. I have a few spare...

Any pictures of it showing it in the BIOS?

Reply 19 of 19, by Maximin

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Hmm, seems you are right.
No problems only with PCI SATA adapter. In a such case BIOS just shows "Not Installed" for HDDs in system summary.
With internal ATA it recognizes 8gb out of 40. Thanksfully, BIOs doesn't hang as most Award BIOSes do with that volume - just shows incorrect capacity.

But works perfectly, as long as boot partition fits in this first 8 gb. Then OS loads it's own driver that works OK with the remaining volume. So, create first partition within this 8gb and use appropriate OS. Even for Windows 98 there's UNIATA driver that replace default drivers and works with 48 bit LBA disks.
Proof: 10490186m.jpg
You can see that's disk connected to the onboard ATA, and SATA adapter disabled. Disk works at maximal for PIIX3 Multiword DMA 2.