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Reply 20 of 64, by Oldskoolmaniac

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So Im slowly getting parts and i decided to switch it up a bit, im going to do 750mhz Athlon, 800mhz p3 100 and 133 so three different builds so far the parts I have is 2x identical 20gb hdd's, intel GA-6BXC motherboard and i have two processors on the way one is a 800mhz 133fsb p3 and the other 800mhz 100fsb p3 as for video cards im waiting for a good deal to arise.

So far im trying to find a board to house the 133fsb Does anyone know if the asus p2b is capable of this speed and is the p2b from 1999

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Reply 21 of 64, by archsan

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What revision is your P2B? Your best bet might be on using FCPGA + slotket with its own voltage regulator.

Early rev P2B should be 1998. P3B-F is probably what you're looking for.

Again I will link to this excellent guide for P2B/P3B series:
http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_p … pgrade_faq.html

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Reply 22 of 64, by candle_86

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I know my SOYO 6BA+ IV does 133 fine but AGP is at 89mhz, most Nvidia cards will tolerate this. Also its a 1999 440BX board.

It has Jumperless configuration, ATA66 Highpoint for faster I/O, AGP 2x, 4 SDram slots, supports 8 IDE devices, and has 2 ISA slots. I love it see if you can find one.

Reply 23 of 64, by Oldskoolmaniac

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archsan wrote:
What revision is your P2B? Your best bet might be on using FCPGA + slotket with its own voltage regulator. […]
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What revision is your P2B? Your best bet might be on using FCPGA + slotket with its own voltage regulator.

Early rev P2B should be 1998. P3B-F is probably what you're looking for.

Again I will link to this excellent guide for P2B/P3B series:
http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_p … pgrade_faq.html

sorry i should have specified i was looking at a p2b, I don't own one, but your saying that the p3b-f is 133fsb and is it 1999.

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Reply 24 of 64, by candle_86

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Oldskoolmaniac wrote:
archsan wrote:
What revision is your P2B? Your best bet might be on using FCPGA + slotket with its own voltage regulator. […]
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What revision is your P2B? Your best bet might be on using FCPGA + slotket with its own voltage regulator.

Early rev P2B should be 1998. P3B-F is probably what you're looking for.

Again I will link to this excellent guide for P2B/P3B series:
http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_p … pgrade_faq.html

sorry i should have specified i was looking at a p2b, I don't own one, but your saying that the p3b-f is 133fsb and is it 1999.

Its also 100mhz offical FSB, its 440BX.

all 440bx boards support 133 unoffically they have a 1/4PCI divider but not the 1/4 AGP divider, only a 2/3 divider, so it will run at 89mhz no matter which 440bx board you use for 133mhz.

Reply 25 of 64, by FFXIhealer

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Yeah, this is why I never really tried to look into 133MHz CPUs. Would have been nice with a fast Pentium III.

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Reply 26 of 64, by Oldskoolmaniac

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so did they not make board capable of running 133 in 99' or was that not tell 2000 or 01. they had to off cuz 800mhz 133fsb was released in 99'

I don't really want to run my agp at 89 none of my cards run stable, constant blue screen.

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Reply 27 of 64, by archsan

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In addition to the above, I should remind you that early revision P2B boards do not natively support Coppermine which has lower voltage than Katmai (~1.7V vs ~2.0V, just check the docs or the guide above). However you can bypass this limitation if you're using FCPGA CPU + slotket with its own voltage regulator (MSI MS-6905 ver 2.x should do, there are lots of it but currently not listed on ebay). Otherwise with slot 1 CPUs you're limited to 600MHz Katmai max.

Compare:
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/P2B.html
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/P3B-F.html

IIRC only from P2B rev 1.12 that you can be sure Coppermine is supported out of the box (officially, the 100FSB versions).

Note that P2B-F is another variant with extra PCI slot and different revision scheming to the regular P2B. While the P3B-F comes in 6 PCI / 1 ISA and 5 PCI / 2 ISA versions -- as well as a 6 PCI without ISA slot.

Finally -- Yes, the P3B-F a 1999 release!
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/d … asus-p3b-f.html
http://www.thg.ru/mainboard/19990917/print.html

If you want 1999 native 133 FSB you'll have to go with i820 (i815 came a bit too late!).

I have rev 1.04 P3B-F with a 800EB (133) but sometimes it has to reboot before a successful POST.

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Reply 28 of 64, by candle_86

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Oldskoolmaniac wrote:

so did they not make board capable of running 133 in 99' or was that not tell 2000 or 01. they had to off cuz 800mhz 133fsb was released in 99'

I don't really want to run my agp at 89 none of my cards run stable, constant blue screen.

They did look for an Apollo Pro 133, i810, i820 or i840 slot 1 motherboard. (these all existed in 1999)

Reply 29 of 64, by Oldskoolmaniac

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Does $18 for a Creative 32MB AGP Riva TNT2 seem like a fair deal? It seems like the best deal ive found.

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Reply 30 of 64, by Darkman

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Oldskoolmaniac wrote:

Does $18 for a Creative 32MB AGP Riva TNT2 seem like a fair deal? It seems like the best deal ive found.

personally I wouldnt go for a TNT2 and instead go for a Voodoo3 (for Glide support) or if you want something better, go for a Geforce256 which did come out in late 1999 (the SDR version , not sure about the DDR)

Reply 31 of 64, by brostenen

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If money is the thing that holds you back, then go for TNT2 instead of Voodoo3. Just make shure it is a Pro or Ultra.
I have had great time working with TNT2-Pro and Ultra's, and it is only NFS-II-SE that I need Voodoo for.
That game is so old, that both V1 and V2 can be used. Making TNT2 or GF256 good options for you'r build.

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Reply 32 of 64, by Oldskoolmaniac

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Ill probably get the tnt2 cuz the GF256 SDR version is impossible to get for cheap, voodoo3's are not to bad in price $30 shipped but i already have a voodoo3 and thats not really what i want with this build.

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Reply 33 of 64, by Darkman

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Oldskoolmaniac wrote:

Ill probably get the tnt2 cuz the GF256 SDR version is impossible to get for cheap, voodoo3's are not to bad in price $30 shipped but i already have a voodoo3 and thats not really what i want with this build.

you could also go with a Matrox card like a G400, very nice 2D quality and good 3D too.

Reply 34 of 64, by Oldskoolmaniac

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I could go with a g400 max, but how do they stack up against the tnt2

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Reply 35 of 64, by Kamerat

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Got my Creative GeForce 256 Annihilator Pro for christmas 1999, so a GeForce DDR would be appropriate for a '99 rig. 😀

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Reply 36 of 64, by Darkman

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Oldskoolmaniac wrote:

I could go with a g400 max, but how do they stack up against the tnt2

This video should tell you more about the card, but in general its about the same as the TNT2 , but not quite as fast as a TNT2 Ultra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinfyV_PdSc

Reply 37 of 64, by brostenen

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Or.... You can go for the G550 model. Faster than G400. Found some cheap ones, especially the one from UK.
Shipping might be too much, though if combined are cheaper, then go for it.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trk … l+head&_sacat=0

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Reply 38 of 64, by Oldskoolmaniac

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so i ordered this--->http://www.ebay.com/itm/391199498586?_trksid= … K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT<--- brand new still sealed, paired it with this--->http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/gigabyte/GA-6BXC.htm and my 30gb quantum HDD, im in the process of buying 32 beige computer cases for $25 brand new still in the package.

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Reply 39 of 64, by archsan

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^ We're looking at the same seller... he's got many interesting stuff for us indeed. 😀

32 (thirty two) beige computer cases? Wo0t! 🤣

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