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First post, by konc

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So there is this 286 motherboard which suddenly refuses to cooperate with any keyboard. It doesn't complain about a missing keyboard, just no key works any more.
After trying the usual (like resitting the keyboard BIOS, checking for continuity the keyboard port) I got it out the case for a last visual inspection before tossing it. And there is this:

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Not the blown tantalum capacitor, the photo is old and it has been changed. I'm talking about the marked L3 component. I noticed that 3 of the keyboard port pins go directly to L1, L2 and L3 so I'm thinking of giving this a chance. But what is this component? What should I buy to replace it? I have no clue!

Reply 1 of 25, by FFXIhealer

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Don't know, but since you're going to replace it anyway, you can de-solder it from the board with its pins intact, then use a DMM to test it. If you put it in capacitance mode and get 0, you can rule out it being a capacitor. It could be a resistor, but most resistors look like the tan ones with the stripes. Honestly, you got me.

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Reply 3 of 25, by BloodyCactus

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looks like a diode, but I dont see any bar on it indicating polarity. Usually diodes are 'D' and inductors are 'L'.

you can see 'd1' below the rom so probaly the L3 is not a diode..

I'd make a guess that its an axial power inductor.

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Reply 5 of 25, by adalbert

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It is obviously an inductor. Unfortunately you can't measure the parameters without special equipment. You can try soldering a 1uH or 10uH inductor and maybe you'll be lucky.

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Reply 6 of 25, by BloodyCactus

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With schematics using PS/2 keyboard connectors often use 10uH inductors. That would be a good place to start.

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Reply 7 of 25, by h-a-l-9000

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Can you do a continuity check on the part, and tell to which pin of the keyboard connector it leads? It's probably a fuse.

I've seen inductors placed instead of fuses on some boards - maybe here it's the other way around.

1+1=10

Reply 8 of 25, by Jepael

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It is called a ferrite bead. I suppose they could be considered as inductors because they are pretty similar.

It might relate to the burned tantalum.

Can you determine which keyboard wire (clock, data, 5V supply, ground) goes through the burned inductor?

Maybe the keyboard was broken and drew too much current, burning the ferrite bead?

Reply 9 of 25, by konc

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Thanks you all guys, I'm not good at all with these

Here are the 3 keyboard port pins that are directly connected to the mystery components (as you're looking the keyboard port from the front):

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Reply 10 of 25, by keropi

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rein_ein wrote:

Not sure why but first my eyes catched broken tantalum capacitor.

Yeah me too, C73 ... 99.9% is the same value as the ones near it - needs replacing too!

The other part is a ferite/filter (like Jolaes mentions) check continuity and see if you have it: If not you can use a wire patch to test if the keyboard works after that.
I'd replace both parts at once 😎

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Reply 11 of 25, by konc

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The capacitor has been already replaced!

konc wrote:

Not the blown tantalum capacitor, the photo is old and it has been changed. I'm talking about the marked L3 component.

So if it's certain it's an inductor by now, I see inductors also have additional metrics, check out for example this local site I'm planning to buy them from:
10uH: http://www.acdcshop.gr/axial-c-54_252_255_en. … l?f=221_2539%2C
Which one do you think I should get? It's not going to blow up the rest of the motherboard on my face or anything if values are not correct, right?

Reply 12 of 25, by h-a-l-9000

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L1 and L2 are certainly inductors/ferrite beads - but L3 is different. The shrinkwrap on it may have an imprint. It's in the 5V path - a fuse would make sense there.

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Reply 13 of 25, by keropi

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I've seen ferite in many power lines , I am pretty sure this is just another ferite (maybe not the same value as the other two since it's on the 5v line)
If it was a fuse surely they'd name it "Fsomething" and not L3, right?

konc did you bridge the connection to see if it fixes the keyboard problem?

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Reply 14 of 25, by Jepael

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h-a-l-9000 wrote:

L1 and L2 are certainly inductors/ferrite beads - but L3 is different. The shrinkwrap on it may have an imprint. It's in the 5V path - a fuse would make sense there.

Good catch!

Now, in retrospect, the first thing to do would have been to search for images with working identical motherboard:
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The L3 filter for the 5V supply line has been changed to a fuse indeed.

And also : ferrite beads very little inductance so it usually can't be replaced it with 10uH inductor. Not sure if it would have worked in this case though, since L3 is for supply voltage.

Reply 15 of 25, by keropi

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^ now that is a good catch, that pic cleared everything up - h-a-l-9000 was correct... good one!
So what rating of fuse would go there?

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Reply 16 of 25, by Jepael

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keropi wrote:

^ now that is a good catch, that pic cleared everything up - h-a-l-9000 was correct... good one!
So what rating of fuse would go there?

Hmm, I think no keyboard draws more than 200-300mA, so maybe 500mA would be safe value to allow to pass out from connector in normal conditions, so maybe around 750mA or 1A fuse rating would be good.

Reply 17 of 25, by keropi

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hmmm I just checked the 2 486 mobos I have , they definitely don't have any fuses at the keyboard port, just ferite beeds. Maybe upgrading the vcc one to a picofuse is not a bad idea after all...

Konc if you have a 1A glass fuse (that are common as dirt) just do a quick solder job to see if the board works, maybe there is nothing damaged or maybe something will blow the fuse again... lotto 🤣

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Reply 18 of 25, by konc

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OK, so we're set? A fuse 0.75-1A is the verdict? Let me see what fuse I can find and give it a quick try.

Thanks for everything guys, I will report back with the results. If I don't it means the fire brigade arrived too late 😀

Reply 19 of 25, by keropi

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yep, 0.75/1A fuse sounds correct... if you have try with the 0.75 one - worst case scenario it burns

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