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First post, by xplus93

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Does anybody know the difference between the different dell 466 machines. I just got an XPS 466V but I also saw there was a 466DV and the precision 466V. Were there any differences in the machines, which one was better?

XPS 466V|486-DX2|64MB|#9 GXE 1MB|SB32 PnP
Presario 4814|PMMX-233|128MB|Trio64
XPS R450|PII-450|384MB|TNT2 Pro| TB Montego
XPS B1000r|PIII-1GHz|512MB|GF2 PRO 64MB|SB Live!
XPS Gen2|P4 EE 3.4|2GB|GF 6800 GT OC|Audigy 2

Reply 1 of 14, by spiroyster

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Don't know, but I have a "Precision 466i" (I think 486DX-66), and another "Dimension 466" (I think 386+387) boxes sat in the corner which were offloaded to me in the past for something aparently useful that I did back when... Will check what their 'vital statistics' later or tomorrow. I was told the 386+387 was a 386+387, however it might not be.

Dell marketing iirc, went something like this:

Precision (CAD variant)
XPS (Performance variant?)
Dimension (not quite XPS, but apparently substantial enough to be called something else)

I've wondered what this "466" model number represents every time a spot them in the corner. o.0
Any info would be appreciated.

Reply 2 of 14, by Brickpad

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I have a Dell Dimension XPS 466DV, and I believe this is what it means:

D: "DX" CPU
V: VLB motherboard (mine)
4: 80486 class CPU
66: 66MHz, or possibly the motherboard can handle up to a 66MHz CPU.

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This may help to clarify: http://web.archive.org/web/19961222080831/htt … tech/try486.htm

Reply 3 of 14, by xplus93

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OMG, that site you linked is awesome. May be just a diagram, but i've never seen a 486 poweredge. You've made a dell fanboy very happy.

XPS 466V|486-DX2|64MB|#9 GXE 1MB|SB32 PnP
Presario 4814|PMMX-233|128MB|Trio64
XPS R450|PII-450|384MB|TNT2 Pro| TB Montego
XPS B1000r|PIII-1GHz|512MB|GF2 PRO 64MB|SB Live!
XPS Gen2|P4 EE 3.4|2GB|GF 6800 GT OC|Audigy 2

Reply 4 of 14, by xplus93

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Also now I know I can upgrade to a DX4 as well 😀

XPS 466V|486-DX2|64MB|#9 GXE 1MB|SB32 PnP
Presario 4814|PMMX-233|128MB|Trio64
XPS R450|PII-450|384MB|TNT2 Pro| TB Montego
XPS B1000r|PIII-1GHz|512MB|GF2 PRO 64MB|SB Live!
XPS Gen2|P4 EE 3.4|2GB|GF 6800 GT OC|Audigy 2

Reply 5 of 14, by xplus93

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I'd love to see pics of that 466i. Btw, that's spot on marketing-wise. I'm wondering if they pulled any badge tricks like later models. I've got an xps M1710, or was it a precision M90, or an inspiron 9200, LMAO. I do know i'm getting a number nine GXE with the XPS, but it looks like the soundblaster is missing.

XPS 466V|486-DX2|64MB|#9 GXE 1MB|SB32 PnP
Presario 4814|PMMX-233|128MB|Trio64
XPS R450|PII-450|384MB|TNT2 Pro| TB Montego
XPS B1000r|PIII-1GHz|512MB|GF2 PRO 64MB|SB Live!
XPS Gen2|P4 EE 3.4|2GB|GF 6800 GT OC|Audigy 2

Reply 6 of 14, by Standard Def Steve

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Was taking a look at some of the systems on that archive site and spotted something interesting. The OptiPlex 4xx/MXe has what looks like an ATX PSU connector. Not sure if it actually is ATX (or if it even supports soft-off for that matter), but it sure looks like a 20 pin ATX connector. That would be a first for a 486.

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Reply 7 of 14, by spiroyster

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xplus93 wrote:

I'd love to see pics of that 466i.

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Dell 466i precision & 466i dimension.

It was the first time I opened them, and was greeted by these thingys...

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CT1740 & CT1810

Brickpad wrote:

Can't see the "466i" models listed 🙁. Both machines had 486DX66 CPU (despite the dimension having an SX33 labelled heatsink?) so your assumption is probably correct.

Apart from the ram and expansion cards present, machines look identical, have same mobo's/risers, same PSU... pretty much everything the same. Lots of dates of 1993 and 1994 dotted around on components so I would place the 466i after 94, but before 96 since I cannot find reference on the '96 Dell website? Or am I going blind o.0

Reply 8 of 14, by xplus93

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Yeah, the 4xx means 486, and the x66 means 66 MHz, but i'm not sure what the "i" is for.

Does this look like your board? It was listed under "4xx/P, 4xxs/P, V4xx/i, V4xxs/i - NP"

http://web.archive.org/web/19970225121241/http://www.dell.com/support/tech/DTA/4XXSIP/00000003.htm

XPS 466V|486-DX2|64MB|#9 GXE 1MB|SB32 PnP
Presario 4814|PMMX-233|128MB|Trio64
XPS R450|PII-450|384MB|TNT2 Pro| TB Montego
XPS B1000r|PIII-1GHz|512MB|GF2 PRO 64MB|SB Live!
XPS Gen2|P4 EE 3.4|2GB|GF 6800 GT OC|Audigy 2

Reply 9 of 14, by spiroyster

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xplus93 wrote:

Yeah, the 4xx means 486, and the x66 means 66 MHz, but i'm not sure what the "i" is for.

Does this look like your board? It was listed under "4xx/P, 4xxs/P, V4xx/i, V4xxs/i - NP"

http://web.archive.org/web/19970225121241/http://www.dell.com/support/tech/DTA/4XXSIP/00000003.htm

Thanks, yes layout looks about the same.

Apologies should have taken some more piccys of the internals. Will do when I get the chance.

Reply 10 of 14, by xplus93

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If so, I noticed some neat VRAM sockets there you might wanna check out. I should be getting my XPS tomorrow. I'll post pics when it arrives.

XPS 466V|486-DX2|64MB|#9 GXE 1MB|SB32 PnP
Presario 4814|PMMX-233|128MB|Trio64
XPS R450|PII-450|384MB|TNT2 Pro| TB Montego
XPS B1000r|PIII-1GHz|512MB|GF2 PRO 64MB|SB Live!
XPS Gen2|P4 EE 3.4|2GB|GF 6800 GT OC|Audigy 2

Reply 11 of 14, by GuyTechie

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Standard Def Steve wrote:

Was taking a look at some of the systems on that archive site and spotted something interesting. The OptiPlex 4xx/MXe has what looks like an ATX PSU connector. Not sure if it actually is ATX (or if it even supports soft-off for that matter), but it sure looks like a 20 pin ATX connector. That would be a first for a 486.

I want to explore this more.

I have a Dell OptiPlex 466 Le (DX2-66) and noticed that ATX-style PSU right away. The power switch is a soft switch, not like the traditional hard toggle switches we know AT-style PSUs require.

Is it proprietary? This is the first time I've seen a soft switch on a 486 PC.

Reply 12 of 14, by xplus93

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Can you upload pics?

XPS 466V|486-DX2|64MB|#9 GXE 1MB|SB32 PnP
Presario 4814|PMMX-233|128MB|Trio64
XPS R450|PII-450|384MB|TNT2 Pro| TB Montego
XPS B1000r|PIII-1GHz|512MB|GF2 PRO 64MB|SB Live!
XPS Gen2|P4 EE 3.4|2GB|GF 6800 GT OC|Audigy 2

Reply 13 of 14, by feipoa

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I'm really enjoying the spike in 486 OEM system photos which has emerged on Vogons as of late. Does yours have a PS/2 mouse port?

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Reply 14 of 14, by GuyTechie

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feipoa wrote:

I'm really enjoying the spike in 486 OEM system photos which has emerged on Vogons as of late. Does yours have a PS/2 mouse port?

I would have loved a standards-built 486, but I couldn't turn down a fully functioning OEM machine. Yes, it does have a PS/2 port. I'll have to take pictures when I get home (and remember to, 🤣).

In the mean time, it looks something like this (Googled for images):
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