whatever you find that is cheaper. but if the price is near identical, just get a slot-1 style.

I think higher clocked P3 coppermines are more common in S370, and slockets are fairly cheap and common (non VRM equipped).

A slot 1 CPU next to your V5 would look so much cooler than some wimpy socketed thing stuck in an adapter. 😀

Standard Def Steve wrote:

A slot 1 CPU next to your V5 would look so much cooler than some wimpy socketed thing stuck in an adapter. 😀

Agreed.

Ampera wrote:

Standard Def Steve wrote:

A slot 1 CPU next to your V5 would look so much cooler than some wimpy socketed thing stuck in an adapter. 😀

Agreed.

Me too. I do like a fancy slotket like the ones that support tualatin cpu's but a highend slot1 cpu is even more ''retro''.
The 1ghz 100fsb version is pretty rare in slot1, maybe a tiny bit easier to find in s370.

The 133fsb version was a bit more common in slot one and easy to find in s370.

I agree with what was said. I have one and it is cool.

I think lately it is one of the hardest things to find for me: a highend slot1 cpu.

I never use Ebay and i have most of the time no trouble finding what i need. But besides the slotket options my fastest slot1 cpu is still a p3-700mhz. I can not find a faster 100mhz fsb slot1 cpu.
I'm not even talking about the 1ghz one.

Granted, i don't really need one and it keeps a nice gap between it and my Tualatin system but considering everything i found the last couple of years it is odd that i never see them.

Kevin_CCR wrote:

So I won a voodoo 5 on ebay, I now need to upgrade my cpu. I have an ASUS P2B-F Slot One mobo. Should I go with a 1000mhz pentium 3 coppermine or go with an asus s370-dl adapter.

If you can get a Slot 1 1000MHz it will be a good solution, but imho a Slot 1 800MHz (with 100MHz FSB) should be fine as well. It's not always about the fastest and greatest, but more a matter of what's good enough and makes you satisfied.

Voodoo 5 5500 is roughly the speed of a GF2, it may help you to keep that in mind. Personally I'd prefer to use a s370-based board for the really fast P3 stuff as it's cheaper and more flexible/easy to setup.

Another option would be to get a s370 1GHz Coppermine, use it in a slotket and run it at 750MHz. That way you can take your time to find a proper 100MHz Slot 1 P3 while still being able to run your V5 Slot 1 rig and afterwards have a 1GHz s370 Coppermine as a spare (which imho you really should have as a spare, 1GHz s370 Coppermines are a must in every collection, kinda like Pentium 233 MMZ is).

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I think lately it is one of the hardest things to find for me: a highend slot1 cpu.

I never use Ebay and i have most of the time no trouble finding what i need. But besides the slotket options my fastest slot1 cpu is still a p3-700mhz. I can not find a faster 100mhz fsb slot1 cpu.
I'm not even talking about the 1ghz one.

Granted, i don't really need one and it keeps a nice gap between it and my Tualatin system but considering everything i found the last couple of years it is odd that i never see them.

Yeah, it can be hard to find one. But mine has been for sale for 2 years and I still own it, so...
I've had FC-PGA P3 1100MHZ, 100FSB too.

If it wasn't for the fact that Tualatin core (on a proper slotket @1.3V) does 1000MHz with just 55% of the power/heat of a Coppermine core...

Tetrium wrote:

If you can get a Slot 1 1000MHz it will be a good solution, but imho a Slot 1 800MHz (with 100MHz FSB) should be fine as well. It's not always about the fastest and greatest, but more a matter of what's good enough and makes you satisfied.

^This. I remember back in the day I got a 1000/100 slot one. Performance was disappointing (diminishing returns at 100Mhz FSB) but it was still so cool to get to 1Ghz with a slot 1. 😎

If one can't find those fancy proper FCPGA2 slotkets then the Korean guys modded Tualatin CPUs + a normal FCPGA slotket is an easy way to get 1050+ Mhz on a Slot-1 i440BX board.

The only thing needed except for the CPU and FCPGA slotket is VRM support for 1.475/1.5V, most of my BX boards have this but 1998 board revisons probably don't have it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281238323137?_trksid= … K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The modded 1400 MHz Tualerons with 100 MHz FSB seems to be temporarily out of stock but here is the link if anyone wants to add it to their watch list. The price is $25 when they are in stock if I remember right.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Updating-/28193195765 … oQAAOSwWTRWuu99

clueless1 wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

If you can get a Slot 1 1000MHz it will be a good solution, but imho a Slot 1 800MHz (with 100MHz FSB) should be fine as well. It's not always about the fastest and greatest, but more a matter of what's good enough and makes you satisfied.

^This. I remember back in the day I got a 1000/100 slot one. Performance was disappointing (diminishing returns at 100Mhz FSB) but it was still so cool to get to 1Ghz with a slot 1. 😎

Disappointing performance? My 1ghz Slot1 runs circles around my (recently sold) 1ghz SlotA Athlon... Now that's what I consider disappointing.

sprcorreia wrote:

clueless1 wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

If you can get a Slot 1 1000MHz it will be a good solution, but imho a Slot 1 800MHz (with 100MHz FSB) should be fine as well. It's not always about the fastest and greatest, but more a matter of what's good enough and makes you satisfied.

^This. I remember back in the day I got a 1000/100 slot one. Performance was disappointing (diminishing returns at 100Mhz FSB) but it was still so cool to get to 1Ghz with a slot 1. 😎

Disappointing performance? My 1ghz Slot1 runs circles around my (recently sold) 1ghz SlotA Athlon... Now that's what I consider disappointing.

I never build a slot A rig, but I was mostly referring to wanting a Slot 1 1000MHz 100MHz FSB Coppermine while a Slot 1 800MHz 100MHz FSB Coppermine may prove much easier to find and use and have well enough performance for the intended tasks while being cheaper (and have a bit less power consumption).

I do think that going from, say, Deschutes 350MHz to Katmai 550MHz does increase performance by a significant margin, but both these CPUs were also already 100MHz FSB. When it comes to narrow FSBs and higher frequencies, larger cashes seem to start matter more.

Tetrium wrote:

I do think that going from, say, Deschutes 350MHz to Katmai 550MHz does increase performance by a significant margin, but both these CPUs were also already 100MHz FSB. When it comes to narrow FSBs and higher frequencies, larger cashes seem to start matter more.

Unfair comparison...

Pentium II 350MHz Deschutes, 512KB @ 175MHz
Pentium III 550MHz Katmai, 57% speed increase, add some other enhancements and SSE, 512KB @ 275MHz.

It was supposed to be way faster.

Now 800->1000, same architecture gives a 25% speed increase...

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Tetrium wrote:

I do think that going from, say, Deschutes 350MHz to Katmai 550MHz does increase performance by a significant margin, but both these CPUs were also already 100MHz FSB. When it comes to narrow FSBs and higher frequencies, larger cashes seem to start matter more.

Unfair comparison...

350MHz Deschutes, 512KB @ 175MHz
550MHz Katmai, 57% speed increase, add some other enhancements, 512KB @ 275MHz.

It was supposed to be way faster.

Now 800->1000, same architecture gives a 25% speed increase...

I agree with you on the CPU frequency boost being more significant when it comes to the examples that I brought up. But this was kinda also my point, 800MHz Slot 1 CPU may be significantly less expensive and easier to find compared to the 1000MHz one while hardly being a noticeable downgrade.

Heck, even the 133MHz FSB 800MHz Coppermine and 133MHz FSB 1000MHz Coppermine were very similar in performance to one another. Hence my advice to simply use a slower one. Or at least till he decides if he makes up his mind whether he actually wants to spend extra money on the faster part. It may not even be worth it and he might spend that same money purchasing parts that are more useful to him.

sprcorreia wrote:

clueless1 wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

If you can get a Slot 1 1000MHz it will be a good solution, but imho a Slot 1 800MHz (with 100MHz FSB) should be fine as well. It's not always about the fastest and greatest, but more a matter of what's good enough and makes you satisfied.

^This. I remember back in the day I got a 1000/100 slot one. Performance was disappointing (diminishing returns at 100Mhz FSB) but it was still so cool to get to 1Ghz with a slot 1. 😎

Disappointing performance? My 1ghz Slot1 runs circles around my (recently sold) 1ghz SlotA Athlon... Now that's what I consider disappointing.

Well, maybe I'm remembering wrong, but it seems that on the 100Mhz FSB slot 1 platform, going from 800Mhz to 1Ghz only netted about 10-15% improvement despite the 25% clock speed difference. I remember the limiting factor being the FSB and chipset limitations.

clueless1 wrote:

Well, maybe I'm remembering wrong, but it seems that on the 100Mhz FSB slot 1 platform, going from 800Mhz to 1Ghz only netted about 10-15% improvement despite the 25% clock speed difference. I remember the limiting factor being the FSB and chipset limitations.

Looks like I'm going have to dig up a 800MHz P3. All I have at hand is a 700MHz.