I thought I had a goldtop winchip 2 at one point, but it passed out of memory, probably find some cave critter mooning over it in the lower levels someday.

Has anyone seen a Pentium 66 non-goldcap in the wild?
Or a Pentium 100 with goldcap?
Can't decide which one's more rare...

ChrisK wrote on 2024-03-01, 09:15:

Has anyone seen a Pentium 66 non-goldcap in the wild?
Or a Pentium 100 with goldcap?
Can't decide which one's more rare...

I have both.

Nexxen wrote on 2024-03-01, 10:46:

ChrisK wrote on 2024-03-01, 09:15:

Has anyone seen a Pentium 66 non-goldcap in the wild?
Or a Pentium 100 with goldcap?
Can't decide which one's more rare...

I have both.

I have 100 Gold as well. Still searching for a 66 non-gold

I've only seen a golden P100 for sale once in the last 3-4 years.
Unfortunately didn't grab one as the price was ok'ish, ~40 EUR iirc.

ChrisK wrote on 2024-03-01, 11:57:

I've only seen a golden P100 for sale once in the last 3-4 years.
Unfortunately didn't grab one as the price was ok'ish, ~40 EUR iirc.

Sounds reasonable, I think I paid 40US$ some 6 years ago

I bought four P100 gold tops that have never been used. Price was a little high. I think around $50 -60 each.
I think I saw a P66 ceramic for sale in China recently, but the price was absurd.

I thought I saw a gold top 120 once upon a time, but since I am not finding reference to them easily, wondering if I imagined it.

Am I the only one here who finds it completely unashamed and reckless to combine the words "four" "P100 gold tops" and "never used" in one and the same sentence?

(BIG 😉, but still a bit jealous)

Hmm how about a FDIV bugged P60 with the ultra rare Intel Pentium Processor label in Gold Top ? (Nearly all Pentiums dont include the word Processor on the IHS !)

Last one I saw went for an insane amount of money .. bet it was an oiler collecting rare CPUs.

Hopefully it was a museum buying it.

They're uncommon, but hardly rare.

debs3759 wrote on 2024-03-01, 20:47:

They're uncommon, but hardly rare.

People say this but its all relative to where you live, here in Australia I have seen exactly one .. the one I mentioned above. I have never seen another with that Processor label, I doubt I will again. The FDIV bugged versions are uncommon and I have seen a number of them, not sure if they are worth grabbing one for the collection.

Now if you told me a Oxyuranus microlepidotus was unobtanium where you lived I would believe you, they are not rare here but are uncommon, again relative rarity.

I see what you're saying. Most that I have seen have been sold outside the UK as well. I see the global market, rather than local 😀

I think most I've seen were sold in the US.

Over the time I ran across some of them.
But even here, "mid continental Europe", you mostly see the non FDIV bugged gold tops. SX948 to be exact.
Maybe it is because the early ones got replaced with FDIV clean variants later on or they weren't sold here that much at all. Dunno.

I can remember my parents buying a new 486DX2-66 system in late 1996 for a relatively high price. I don't recall the exact offset to a Pentium system back then, but as release of Pentium 60 was 1993 I can just speculate them costing you a kidney and a half at that time. When they finally became affordable some years later they must have already been replaced by early socket 5 systems.
Sometimes I wonder why there are so many P60 to find at all since socket 4 must have been a dead end right from the beginning.

ChrisK wrote on 2024-03-05, 11:06:

Sometimes I wonder why there are so many P60 to find at all since socket 4 must have been a dead end right from the beginning.

For "no-compromise" workstations or servers maybe, albeit at the compromise of not going all the way to 66 MHz, which was probably crazily more expensive?

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-03-05, 11:48:

ChrisK wrote on 2024-03-05, 11:06:

Sometimes I wonder why there are so many P60 to find at all since socket 4 must have been a dead end right from the beginning.

For "no-compromise" workstations or servers maybe, albeit at the compromise of not going all the way to 66 MHz, which was probably crazily more expensive?

I’ve often wondered the ratio of p60 to p66 sales, must have been 5:1 or something stupid for 6mhz

In 93 and 94 maybe, many more P60 selling... but then I wonder if they had a glut of P66 and they got sold off cheap enough for a lot of people with 60 to spring for a 66 in 95 or so, putting a lot of P60s on shelves, and then again when the Socket 4 overdrive came out. Because I think the production of socket 4 motherboards tanked real quick so there were not a lot of opportunity for the P60s sitting idle to be soaked up. I think there ended up a glut of the overdrives too, there was some point late 90s where I was actually looking for a socket 4 board cheap because I could get hold of an overdrive for peanuts... a couple of years later when I landed a socket 4 system for pocket change at a yard sale all the overdrives had "gone away" again.

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-03-05, 14:41:

In 93 and 94 maybe, many more P60 selling... but then I wonder if they had a glut of P66 and they got sold off cheap enough for a lot of people with 60 to spring for a 66 in 95 or so, putting a lot of P60s on shelves, and then again when the Socket 4 overdrive came out. Because I think the production of socket 4 motherboards tanked real quick so there were not a lot of opportunity for the P60s sitting idle to be soaked up. I think there ended up a glut of the overdrives too, there was some point late 90s where I was actually looking for a socket 4 board cheap because I could get hold of an overdrive for peanuts... a couple of years later when I landed a socket 4 system for pocket change at a yard sale all the overdrives had "gone away" again.

Socket 4 was a relatively short lived and had strong competition from Socket 3 and Socket 5 for its entire run. The fdiv bug didn’t help either. I think it’s getting hard to find the boards.

That reminds me about socket 6. I’ve never seen one.

Does anyone here have a socket 6 486 cpu?

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-03-05, 14:41:

In 93 and 94 maybe, many more P60 selling... but then I wonder if they had a glut of P66 and they got sold off cheap enough for a lot of people with 60 to spring for a 66 in 95 or so, putting a lot of P60s on shelves, and then again when the Socket 4 overdrive came out. Because I think the production of socket 4 motherboards tanked real quick so there were not a lot of opportunity for the P60s sitting idle to be soaked up. I think there ended up a glut of the overdrives too, there was some point late 90s where I was actually looking for a socket 4 board cheap because I could get hold of an overdrive for peanuts... a couple of years later when I landed a socket 4 system for pocket change at a yard sale all the overdrives had "gone away" again.

Socket 4 was a relatively short lived and had strong competition from Socket 3 and Socket 5 for its entire run. The fdiv bug didn’t help either. I think it’s getting hard to find the boards.

That reminds me about socket 6. I’ve never seen one.

Does anyone here have a socket 6 486 cpu?

From what I can find all socket 6 did was add two more pins to socket 3 and it was only meant for the DX4/DX4 Overdrive 3.3v CPUs, my guess was Intel doing Intel things again and solving problems that didnt exist and they had to create to sell boards.

Thank GOD the other fabs just ignored it, Intel at that time did some boneheadded things in an attempt to force other fabs off their platforms.

rmay635703 wrote on 2024-03-05, 14:25:

I’ve often wondered the ratio of p60 to p66 sales, must have been 5:1 or something stupid for 6mhz

If you read through the old magazines, you'll notice that they mostly advised passing on the P66 and just going with the P60. Most of the P60 systems were performing at about the same level of as the P66, sometimes even outperforming them. There were only a couple vendors that offered systems with high bandwidth cache and memory. Most of the others just added a tonne of wait states killing the benefit of a 66MHz bus. 66MHz bus only became desirable when the FX chipset came out.