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First post, by FFXIhealer

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So I looked around for a bit and didn't see a thread. So I'm starting one.

Has any of you building these retro rigs every tried pricing them out back in the original time to see what it would have cost back in that year? I find it interesting. Also you can compare what it cost you to build or re-build it now to see how much prices have fallen or if they have. I'm gonna start. Please correct me if I get a price wrong.

Original Build in 1999
CPU: Intel Pentium II 350MHz $260
Motherboard: ASUS P2B $100
Memory: 128MB PC-100 SDRAM $171
HDD: Maxtor 10GB $250
ODD: Unknown 24x CD-ROM $50
ZIP: Iomega ZIP100 $120
AGP: Diamond Stealth II G460 $200
PCI: SMC 10/100 Ethernet $60
ISA: Creative Labs AWE64 Gold $130
Case: Standard ATX Case $60
PSU: 350-Watt ATX $100
Floppy: 3.5" 1.44MB $30
OS: Windows 98 First Edition $100

Total Cost: roughly $1,500

And don't knock the Diamond Stealth II G460. That little Intel i740 chip was pretty damned good when I got it.

1999 Gaming Rig (the rebuild)
CPU: Intel Pentium III 600MHz $669
Motherboard: ASUS P2B $100
Memory: 2x 128MB PC-100 SDRAM $342
HDD: WD-40 40GB 7,200RPM $220 (Didn't actually exist until around 2001)
ODD: Pioneer CD-RW $150 (Also didn't exist at 52x speeds until around 2004)
ZIP: Iomega ZIP100 $120
AGP: Diamond Viper V770 $230
PCI: STB V2-1000 12MB Voodoo2 $250
PCI: STB V2-1000 12MB Voodoo2 $250
PCI: SMC 10/100 Ethernet $60
ISA: Creative Labs AWE64 Standard $80
Case: Standard ATX Case $60
PSU: 350-Watt ATX $100
Floppy: 3.5" 1.44MB $30
OS: Windows 98 Second Edition $100

Total: $2,761

Let's see what I paid to rebuild it.

Rebuild Parts List
CPU: Intel Pentium III 600MHz $30 (eBay)
Memory: 2x 128MB PC-100 SDRAM $0 (obtained from stack of old RAM chips at work)
HDD: WD-40 40GB 7,200RPM $0 (pulled from Windows XP computer that was being trashed at work)
ODD: Pioneer CD-RW $0 (also pulled from above system)
AGP: Diamond Viper V770 $10 (eBay)
PCI: STB V2-1000 12MB Voodoo2 $75 (eBay)
PCI: STB V2-1000 12MB Voodoo2 $0 (bundled with other card purchase)
PCI: SMC 10/100 Ethernet $0 (on-hand stock)
ISA: Creative Labs AWE64 Standard $30 (eBay)
OS: Windows 98 Second Edition $0 (Internet)

Rebuild Cost: $145
Price Difference: -$2,616 (not corrected for inflation)

Not bad. Prices sure have fallen. I had a bunch of old hardware lying around and some of the original build parts, like the MB, CPU, and memory. I ended up maxing out the CPU on the MB with the 100MHz FSB version of the Katmai 600MHz Pentium III, doubling the RAM, and buying all new expansion cards. I'll probably include later a log of my 200MHz Pentium system with Windows 95.

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Reply 1 of 5, by Ampera

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Puh, I did this a while ago, let me see if I can come up with one for JUST my Pentium Pro 200mhz in 1996

I know the Voodoo 1 4MB boards were 300 bucks at launch
The CPU I would wager was around 700-900 USD in 1996, maybe more. Will go for 800 here.
The motherboard I would guess, it being an OEM board, was about 100ish bucks. Perhaps 200. Will go for 150 here.
128MB of RAM in 1996 I find is 180 USD per 16MB (550 for 232MB stick which is what is in there), so I will go for 400$ per 32mb stick as it's close making it 1600$ for 128MB
A 147GB 15k SCSI hard drive would probably not have existed in 1996. I'm going to say a conservative price of 1000$ for a similar storage solution of a similar size, although this is just a guess.
I would add 300$ ass a guesstimate for the controller too.
An ATI Mach64GX in 1996 I would wager to be around 200$.
The case would probably be 75$ even though it's a cheapish one.
An SB CT:3670 at launch I would wager to be ~120$.
DVD drives probably didn't exist, but a similar CD system would likely be perhaps 80ish bucks?
I'd say a 36.6 modem might be around 50 bucks?

This is a STRONG guesstimate. To add this all up I get
4375 USD in mid 1996. In 2017 dollars this is 6900USD approx by my calculations.

To build I paid around 300 USD in total.

There is room for error. As with many of my systems, I have stuff in them that wasn't easily obtainable for the time, but isn't technically impossible to have then, maybe besides a DVD rewriter.

Reply 2 of 5, by CkRtech

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IBM PC - Dual 5.25" Floppy, CGA graphics, 5153 CGA monitor, Microsoft Mouse, Epson fx-86e printer, DOS. Was around... $4500 in 1984? So $10,893 in 2017.

The "car or computer?" question was real back then.

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Reply 3 of 5, by Ampera

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CkRtech wrote:

IBM PC - Dual 5.25" Floppy, CGA graphics, 5153 CGA monitor, Microsoft Mouse, Epson fx-86e printer, DOS. Was around... $4500 in 1984? So $10,893 in 2017.

The "car or computer?" question was real back then.

A car would sadly last you longer.

Reply 4 of 5, by cyclone3d

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My current Pentium 233MMX Build
ATX motherboard - probably about $100 when new.
Pentium 233MMX - $594
Voodoo 3 2000 PCI - $249
Sound Blaster AWE 64 Gold! CT4390 with 24MB Creative upgrade board. $199 for the AWE64 and ??? for the upgrade - anybody know how much these were when new? I'll say $200 for now.
Yamaha SW60XG - can't find the new price. I'll say about $200 which is what I am guessing due to how much the db50xg was new.
STB Ultrasound 32 Pro (OEM - Compaq- Gravis Ultrasound PnP) - I'll say about $200
Aopen AW744L II (Yamaha YMF-744) probably about $30 new
PCI Sata controller - probably about $30 new
128GB SSD - About $150 when it was new.. but for something this size and speed back then... hahahahahahaha
256MB PC-100 - about $3 per MB back then so $768
Case .. $50-ish
Power supply.. $50-ish
floppy drive - $20
CD-ROM - $60

So... not including the absurd price for that amount of storage back then.
$2,550 (Going with a build year of 1997 so $3,889 in 2017 dollars)

What I paid...
MB - about $10
233MMX - $8
V3-2000 PCI I'll say about $5 - came in a lot with other cards
AWE64 Gold! - free from a curb-shopped computer
Creative RAM upgrade card (came with an AWE64 Value) and SW60XG - $150
Gravis Pnp - $75
Aopen AW744L II - free
PCI SATA controller - $7
128GB SSD - free
256MB PC-100 - free
Case - free
PSU - $18
floppy - free
CD-ROM - free

Total: $273

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Reply 5 of 5, by KCompRoom2000

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Here's what I could gather regarding my Celeron 433 build.

Prices when new in 1999:
CPU: Intel Celeron 433MHz - $169
Mobo: ASUS P2B - $100
RAM: 192MB PC-100 SDRAM - $299
HDD: Maxtor 13GB IDE - $275?
CD1: Sony 8x DVD-ROM - $200? (Is actually a 2004 model)
CD2: Teac 24x CD-RW - $150? (Is actually a 2001 model)
Floppy: 3.5" 1.44MB - $30
AGP: ATI Rage Pro Turbo 8MB - $98
PCI - 3D: Diamond Monster 3D II 8MB Voodoo2 - $249
PCI - NIC: Startech OEM Realtek RTL8139 - $60?
ISA - Sound: Sound Blaster AWE64 Value - $80
Case: Red Standard ATX Case - $60?
PSU: 200W ATX - $90?
OS (what probably would've been used on such a machine BITD): Windows 98 - $100

Total: $1,969

What was actually spent in 2013-onwards:
CPU: Intel Celeron 433MHz - Free (pulled from a dead Gateway PC)
Mobo: ASUS P2B - around $50 (eBay), I can't remember the exact price I spent so this is a rough guess.
RAM: 192MB PC-100 SDRAM - Free (pulled from other PCs)
HDD: Maxtor 13GB IDE - Free (pulled from an iMac that got upgraded)
CD1: Sony 8x DVD-ROM - $10 (eBay)
CD2: Teac 24x CD-RW - $2 (bought at a thrift store)
Floppy: 3.5" 1.44MB - $8 (eBay)
AGP: ATI Rage Pro Turbo 8MB - Free (built into the motherboard)
PCI - 3D: Diamond Monster 3D II 8MB Voodoo2 - $65 (eBay)
PCI - NIC: Startech OEM Realtek RTL8139 - $15 (eBay)
ISA - Sound: Sound Blaster AWE64 Value - $15 (eBay)
Case: Red Standard ATX Case - $15 (bought at a local recycling center)
PSU: 200W ATX - Free (pulled from an old Dell tower that fell apart)
OS (what it's currently running): Windows 95 OSR2.5 - Free (Internet)

What I spent on initial build in 2014 (removed the Voodoo and NIC): $85
Total I spent so far: $165

Please excuse me if you spot any errors/left-out details on this post, I just finished writing this post early in the morning before I went to bed so it's possible that there's something I may be missing.

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BTW, Does anyone know where I can find detailed period-accurate price rates for older PC hardware? I've done the usual google search on each individual component and so far the only accurate prices I could find were for the CPU and GPUs, everything else in the 1999 list were rough guesses mainly based on the original post, also, I would like to find out hardware prices for 2004/05 so I can post the pricing info on my XP rig.