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First post, by muon

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Recently I've received this board. I have some questions about it:

1.- The mainboard has jumpers and two array of resistor for CPU configuration. I've never seen before. I've marked with arrows the "resistors" Does anybody know where I can get them?

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2.- I would like to updated the BIOS. My mainboard has AF51 and I got Af54S BIOS version. Do I need to flash a new chip?

3.- Cache chips: where I can get them?

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Reply 1 of 11, by feipoa

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It looks like you have a UV erasable BIOS (EPROM). You need an EEPROM to flash the BIOS.

My MS-4144 has a newer PCB revision and I like to use the AWARD version of the BIOS because it can be moddified to allow for PS/2 mouse support.

I use 1024K in my board. Look for chips 9x ISSI IS61C1024-10 or -12 or -15. Check ebay, alibaba, aliexpress, or utsource.

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Reply 2 of 11, by feipoa

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For the missing resistor pack, i just use a bent wire between the slots. If I recall correctly, the Am5x86 requirement is to have the outermost socket with pins 1&2 shorted, pins 3&4 shorted, 5&6 shorted, and 7&8 shorted. I'll have to check my physical board though.

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Reply 3 of 11, by muon

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feipoa wrote:

It looks like you have a UV erasable BIOS (EPROM). You need an EEPROM to flash the BIOS.

My MS-4144 has a newer PCB revision and I like to use the AWARD version of the BIOS because it can be moddified to allow for PS/2 mouse support.

I use 1024K in my board. Look for chips 9x ISSI IS61C1024-10 or -12 or -15. Check ebay, alibaba, aliexpress, or utsource.

The BIOS rom file is only 128K

I'm Sorry if is a stupid question, Is it possible to use a 1024K EPROM chip?

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Reply 4 of 11, by muon

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feipoa wrote:

For the missing resistor pack, i just use a bent wire between the slots. If I recall correctly, the Am5x86 requirement is to have the outermost socket with pins 1&2 shorted, pins 3&4 shorted, 5&6 shorted, and 7&8 shorted. I'll have to check my physical board though.

I understand that the "resistor pack" is NOT a "resistor pack". It should be called "connectors pack" Isn't it?

Reply 6 of 11, by Imperious

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Eprom and EEprom chips that end in 1001, 1024 are 128k chips. There are 8 bits to a byte.

A 1MB eprom is a 27c800 or 27c080 and is way to big (long) for that socket.

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Reply 7 of 11, by feipoa

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I have enclosed a photo of how I have connected the 0-ohm resister pack. By the way, I have version 2.1 of the board.

For EEPROM chips, some example part numbers of what you need are: W29EE011, AT29C010A, or PH29EE010. The first one should be easy to find.

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Reply 8 of 11, by JidaiGeki

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muon wrote:
feipoa wrote:

For the missing resistor pack, i just use a bent wire between the slots. If I recall correctly, the Am5x86 requirement is to have the outermost socket with pins 1&2 shorted, pins 3&4 shorted, 5&6 shorted, and 7&8 shorted. I'll have to check my physical board though.

I understand that the "resistor pack" is NOT a "resistor pack". It should be called "connectors pack" Isn't it?

If you're searching ebay, try 'resistor network' or 'resistor array'.

Reply 9 of 11, by muon

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Thanks everyone for the info
I'm going to some questions more and I'm so sorry if some questions are stupid (or like stupid)

every resistor is a connector; most connectors are resistors;

Perhaps I didn't explain very well. connectors = 0 ohms. For example, jumpers = 0 ohms OR 0-ohm resistor pack = connector too. In any other case (> 0 ohm), resistor pack. I know, I know there is nothing with 0 ohm

About EEPROM chips: Which programmer do you recommend?

Thanks in advanced,
muon