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First post, by murrayman

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Have a Western Digital Caviar WD200 20gb HDD from 2001. Been using it in a Win98 machine for the past decade with no issues. Recently moved across town and packed the computer in a box lined with packed air and blankets to prevent any shock during the move -- which didn't matter in the end since the box ended up being hand-carried and cradled in a car. 😜 When I unpacked it, everything worked except the HDD. I wondered if it finally developed a bad sector, but the BIOS didn't even see a drive was there. So I opened it up, powered it on, and was surprised to find it wasn't spinning at all. Took it out and hooked it up to an external power supply; when you feed it juice, it does nothing. No clicks, spinning, etc., as if it's not receiving power at all.

Any chance I could attempt a repair on this drive? Looking at the circuit board from beneath, I don't see any broken traces, so no visible damage from shock on the outside. Just not sure what else could have happened.

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Reply 2 of 6, by murrayman

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Warlord wrote:

The lost datas importance or unimportants would matter in making my decision.

It's a very stable, barebones Win98 SE setup with the right updates and drivers, plus saved game data from the past several years. Ideally, I'd like to retrieve it all, but it's not a catastrophic loss if there's no possible way.

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Reply 3 of 6, by CkRtech

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murrayman wrote:

Looking at the circuit board from beneath, I don't see any broken traces, so no visible damage from shock on the outside.

To examine the circuit board, you'll need to unscrew it from the hard drive and carefully flip it over to check the component side. You may have a blown fuse or diode near the molex connector.

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Reply 4 of 6, by murrayman

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Took a look at the circuit board and found no broken traces or other red flags. I found an exact-match replacement on eBay and decided to give it a shot. Swapped the old with the new and tested it with power, and now it does cycle, but not to full speed. At about half-speed, it gives an audible knock, and spins back down before repeating the same thing. Not sure why the old circuit board wasn't allowing the motor to spool, but although this one does, it seems the HDD is indeed damaged.

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Reply 5 of 6, by cyclone3d

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I would be more inclined to say that the replacement board you bought is also faulty. The knock kinda sounds like it is slamming the head into park mode or all the way to the inner part of the platters. Either way, it is slamming the head arm into one of the stop bumps.

Of course if could be that the spindle motor is going bad. In the past I have opened up dying drives and manually helped the spindle start spinning in order to retrieve data from the drive.

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Reply 6 of 6, by nforce4max

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If there is no power only two things come to mind and one is very very unlikely as you would have had to make the change yourself with a utility, chances are the controller got zapped by esd or got a cold joint. The heads should be parked anyway and that shouldn't be the issue.

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