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First post, by Ltsyrek

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Have anyone tried this adapter with PS/2 mouse? Did it work?
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I wonder if it is possible to use it as an easy way to connect PS/2 mouse to my 486.

Reply 1 of 14, by Errius

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My understanding is that the mouse must support serial or it won't work. Most mice never had this support.

(I recently tried two different adaptors with several Microsoft PS/2 mice and could not find a combination that worked.)

Is this too much voodoo?

Reply 2 of 14, by keropi

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yes the mouse must support both modes in order for this passive adapter to work

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Reply 3 of 14, by matze79

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PS/2 to Microsoft Serialmouse Adapter Converter / Updated First Post / Firmware Update added

Maybe an Active Device is intressenting for you ?

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Reply 4 of 14, by Errius

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History repeats. I hear that modern mice are increasingly dropping support for PS/2. You can longer use them with those little green PS/2 to USB adaptors.

Is this too much voodoo?

Reply 6 of 14, by PARKE

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In the early 90's there was often an indication on the sticker at the bottom of the mouse, like this (these work with the simple adapter plug):

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Reply 7 of 14, by feipoa

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This topic comes up about once per year. Anyone run into a USB mouse which supports ps/2 and serial protocols? Double up on the passive adapters 😀

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Reply 8 of 14, by Koltoroc

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feipoa wrote:

This topic comes up about once per year. Any run into a USB mouse which supports ps/2 and serial protocols? Double up on the passive adapters 😀

I don't think those even exist.

Reply 10 of 14, by feipoa

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Errius wrote:

Even if you can find a compatible mouse, using 20-year old ball mice is just unpleasant once you're used to optical mice.

Maybe for some people, but not me. I really like my Logitech Mouseman 3-button trackball mouse w/mouse pad. I prefer it to USB optical mice due to the grip.

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Reply 11 of 14, by timb.us

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Koltoroc wrote:
feipoa wrote:

This topic comes up about once per year. Any run into a USB mouse which supports ps/2 and serial protocols? Double up on the passive adapters 😀

I don't think those even exist.

I’ve actually got a prototype of a USB to PS/2 or Serial adapter for mice and USB to PS/2 or AT for keyboards. I’m using a FTDI Vinculum 2 chip for the USB host support, which converts the HID data from a mouse or keyboard to SPI, which an MSP430 microcontroller converts to PS/2. I really need to go back and design a full PCB for it, finish up the software and release it. (So many projects, so little time!)

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Reply 13 of 14, by matze79

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Why you need a MSP when you have the FTDI Vinculum 2 ?

The Viniculum already has the Power needed to convert a USB Mouse to RS232 😀 it also has a UART and also can do PS/2 with ease.

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Reply 14 of 14, by timb.us

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feipoa wrote:

Does it work without lag, that is, the USB to serial mouse prototype?

Yes, it worked pretty well. I never quite got the acceleration dialed in, and there were a few firmware bugs that I still neee to fix, but as a proof of concept I found it very useable! If there’s interest in this sort of thing, I’ll finish up the board and firmware and release it.

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Why you need a MSP when you have the FTDI Vinculum 2 ?

The Viniculum already has the Power needed to convert a USB Mouse to RS232 😀 it also has a UART and also can do PS/2 with ease.

Because, I hate FTDI’s proprietary dev tools needed to compile for the VINC2. I simply used their pre-compiled USB HID to SPI firmware for it. Also, I’d wanted to make this a multifunction design, with the ability to convert
USB Joysticks and Gamepads to a real game port interface by simply adding a different set of parts to the board. Doing all this is easier with a separate MCU that’s easy to compile for, has open source cross platform tools and only adds $1 to the BOM. Finally, I had considered possibly replacing the VINC2 with a MAX3421E, which is less expensive (though I’d have to deal with Maxim’s terrible sourcing and part life; as a general rule I don’t use Maxim parts because of that, though I also swore I’d never use another FTDI part after FTDIGate a few years back too).

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