Thanks for the pics. ^^

(In case you haven't read it, there's an interesting thread by Stiletto regarding imgur.
The style of that site may has changed, but last time I checked, his tips still worked.
Making clickable embedded images using Imgur image hosting service )

Jo22 wrote:

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Thanks for the pics. ^^

(In case you haven't read it, there's an interesting thread by Stiletto regarding imgur.
The style of that site may has changed, but last time I checked, his tips still worked.
Making clickable embedded images using Imgur image hosting service )

I already read that, that is why the thumbnails are small, otherise it would be way too giant (i took the pics with my canon t5i)
I also left one link to the album with the full resolution images

Ah, okay. Nevermind. 😅 I didn't mean to insinuate anything, your pics are fine.
Just thought it would be helpful to you and others.
So I mentioned that thread, since it was sunken in the depths on the forums.
Took me about 15 minutes to remember parts of the topic's name and to find it.

About that issue with the Sound Blaster 16 Emulation..
I'm not certain, but I recommend to change the BIOS setting from "PCI Device" to "PCI/ISA PnP".
Also disable Parallel Port on IRQ7. On a real SB16 it wouldn't cause any issue, since IRQ-sharing does work in practice.
Provided, that only one device is using it at a time (e.g. don't play music and print your homework).
Anyway, Creative drivers and PnP-OSes may think different. Perhaps they will refuse to work, even though theres only a minor resource conflict.

Some SB live cards have a (generally) Dell OEM version that doesn't work well, or at all with normal Creative Labs drivers. Unless you know exactly where it is originally from, it is worth a try.

AFAIK, I don't think they are marked in any way as Dell OEM cards so looking at the card will not help identifying them as such.

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Ah, okay. Nevermind. 😅 I didn't mean to insinuate anything, your pics are fine.
Just thought it would be helpful to you and others.
So I mentioned that thread, since it was sunken in the depths on the forums.
Took me about 15 minutes to remember parts of the topic's name and to find it.

About that issue with the Sound Blaster 16 Emulation..
I'm not certain, but I recommend to change the BIOS setting from "PCI Device" to "PCI/ISA PnP".
Also disable Parallel Port on IRQ7. On a real SB16 it wouldn't cause any issue, since IRQ-sharing does work in practice.
Provided, that only one device is using it at a time (e.g. don't play music and print your homework).
Anyway, Creative drivers and PnP-OSes may think different. Perhaps they will refuse to work, even though theres only a minor resource conflict.

Nope, disabling and reserving the IRQ did not changed anything, it still frozen.
I will try this card on another machine that i have, with other chipset(KT400A) just to be sure if it isn't a bad driver or bad card.

Koltoroc wrote:

Some SB live cards have a (generally) Dell OEM version that doesn't work well, or at all with normal Creative Labs drivers. Unless you know exactly where it is originally from, it is worth a try.

AFAIK, I don't think they are marked in any way as Dell OEM cards so looking at the card will not help identifying them as such.

The Live! Value CT4780 isn't a OEM Card, it is just the budget oriented Live! card.
To help identify Creative cards it just look up the model here http://www.ask.asia.creative.com/wwenglish/ge … _list_audio.htm

Sound Blaster Live! Value Dell OEM CT4780

from your link. Do a search for dell

Edit: That is what makes the dell cards such a trap, they have the came "CT" number as retail models

Koltoroc wrote:

Sound Blaster Live! Value Dell OEM CT4780

from your link. Do a search for dell

Edit: That is what makes the dell cards such a trap, they have the came "CT" number as retail models

Wow now im starting to think about it, it might be, but it installed without the retail driver, well im installing windows 98 to test if it is a card issue or some incompability with the chipset.
Edit2: well i think i got caught by the trap, it is one of those oem cards, after testing with two other completely different boards( asus sp97-xv and asus a7v8x-x) this card refused to work.
Oh well, i will get and diamond monster mx100(aureal vortex2).

That is weird, with the VXD drivers in duke nukem3d setup it should have
"Soundblaster 16 or AWE 32" @ 220 for Sound FX card and "General Midi" @ 330 for the Music Card.

There are two more things you can try.

Phils computer lab has some Livedos files at https://www.philscomputerlab.com/sound-blaster-live.html that can be used in real mode dos and MS-DOS (windows dos). You do need the Himem and Emm386 also in config.sys file, and IF you use smartdrive it has to be loaded after the sbeinit.com line.

Lastly there are WDM drivers for your card that uses Soundblaster 2.0 (NEW) with no need for (no nmi-ddma) and not soundblaster 16 for audio. These only work in windows dos. In this case, select Soundblaster 2.0 (new) in setup for duke 3d. And General Midi for Music
How to get Sound Blaster Emulation in Win9X/ME via live!5.1 with newer-current mobo's (no nmi-ddma)

With those WDM drivers there will be no emm386/himem needed and also nothing will show up in Device Manager.

I have tried all three ways with my CT4760 with success.

Additional things I could say is get the 1.5 Duke nukem 3d patch, also if you get the sound working there is a PCI soundcard patch for all the build games.

You can use something like Driver cleaner to remove all creative drivers when trying the next set. This is nice to run after you remove anything in Add/Remove Programs.

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That is weird, with the VXD drivers in duke nukem3d setup it should have "Soundblaster 16 or AWE 32" @ 220 for Sound FX card and […]
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That is weird, with the VXD drivers in duke nukem3d setup it should have
"Soundblaster 16 or AWE 32" @ 220 for Sound FX card and "General Midi" @ 330 for the Music Card.

There are two more things you can try.

Phils computer lab has some Livedos files at https://www.philscomputerlab.com/sound-blaster-live.html that can be used in real mode dos and MS-DOS (windows dos). You do need the Himem and Emm386 also in config.sys file, and IF you use smartdrive it has to be loaded after the sbeinit.com line.

Lastly there are WDM drivers for your card that uses Soundblaster 2.0 (NEW) with no need for (no nmi-ddma) and not soundblaster 16 for audio. These only work in windows dos. In this case, select Soundblaster 2.0 (new) in setup for duke 3d. And General Midi for Music
How to get Sound Blaster Emulation in Win9X/ME via live!5.1 with newer-current mobo's (no nmi-ddma)

With those WDM drivers there will be no emm386/himem needed and also nothing will show up in Device Manager.

I have tried all three ways with my CT4760 with success.

Additional things I could say is get the 1.5 Duke nukem 3d patch, also if you get the sound working there is a PCI soundcard patch for all the build games.

You can use something like Driver cleaner to remove all creative drivers when trying the next set. This is nice to run after you remove anything in Add/Remove Programs.

I already went through this, but i guess thus is one oem crap, and will not work properly like one real sb live.
But thank you anyway 😀