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3D Blaster VLB has appeared on eBay.

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As far as I know this is a very rare card.
But it is very expensive for me to buy.
Very sad.

Last edited by skv400 on 2018-04-09, 08:33. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 1 of 31, by kixs

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Don't post eBay links to ongoing auctions...

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I've seen it too and just following it. /me wonders what will be the final price 🤣

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Reply 2 of 31, by 386_junkie

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1) Don't post eBay links, in any-case, I think most here will already have seen it.

2) Do you never do due diligence and look to see bidding history!? I do... and with this one there seems to be questionable bidder authenticity... 9 bidders, 56 bids!? If the 'current' winner is genuine, then to me it looks like he's been hustled.

3) Do you really really need this card? It supports only a handful of games (the one's included in the listing), beyond that, it serves no practical use.

4) Being pragmatic, even if the current price was "genuine"... with a wife and baby in the next room, I could never bring myself to throw that kind of money at a computer part... if it ever got to that stage... please point me in the direction of Computer Addicts Anonymous!

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Reply 3 of 31, by skv400

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I deleted the eBay link.

Thank you for your advice.

Unless you are aiming to play 3D games in 386, paying a lot of money on this card is a waste of money.

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Reply 5 of 31, by squiggly

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Oh yeah...well a "Roland LAPC-I MT32/LAPC" ISA card has also appeared...how much do you think that will go for?

And why in the name of God is a FX 5800 Ultra on its way to reaching $1000 (Aussie) dollars while a typical FX 5950 Ultra might go for under $200?

Reply 6 of 31, by The Serpent Rider

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And why in the name of God is a FX 5800 Ultra on its way to reaching $1000

Dat cooler. Other than that card is identical to a normal FX5800 or Quadro FX 2000 in every aspect.

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Reply 8 of 31, by skv400

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And why in the name of God is a FX 5800 Ultra on its way to reaching $1000 (Aussie) dollars while a typical FX 5950 Ultra might go for under $200?

Maybe FX5800 use DDR2?

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Reply 9 of 31, by squiggly

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skv400 wrote:
squiggly wrote:

And why in the name of God is a FX 5800 Ultra on its way to reaching $1000 (Aussie) dollars while a typical FX 5950 Ultra might go for under $200?

Maybe FX5800 use DDR2?

On a 128bit bus? My understanding is the 5800 was basically a mistake, and Nvidia rushed out the fix in the 5900. The 5800 had a short run. Maybe not many were made/sold and they have just become rare collector pieces, who knows. I don't get Ebay sometimes, you just sometimes see random not-all-that-hot shit go under a bidding frenzy for no apparent reason.

Reply 10 of 31, by Thandor

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The FX5800 Ultra wasn't the card nVidia hoped it would be. However, it was the fastest GeForce FX at launch. It was also an interesting era between nVidia/ATi and new stuff at the horizon in the form of XGI. It was uncommon when it was new and it's a somewhat unusual card (loud, an interesting cooling design, looks). All those things combined together are enough ingredients for a very expensive 'retro' card 😀.

Personally I think it's a very interesting card and the bone-stock nVidia GeForce FX 5800 Ultra looks gorgeous sitting next to the Radeon 9700 Pro and XGI VolariDUO V8 Ultra. And money... well, hobbies tend to cost money. It's just a matter of how far you will go 😀.

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Reply 11 of 31, by Katmai500

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squiggly wrote:
skv400 wrote:
squiggly wrote:

And why in the name of God is a FX 5800 Ultra on its way to reaching $1000 (Aussie) dollars while a typical FX 5950 Ultra might go for under $200?

Maybe FX5800 use DDR2?

On a 128bit bus? My understanding is the 5800 was basically a mistake, and Nvidia rushed out the fix in the 5900. The 5800 had a short run. Maybe not many were made/sold and they have just become rare collector pieces, who knows. I don't get Ebay sometimes, you just sometimes see random not-all-that-hot shit go under a bidding frenzy for no apparent reason.

It was also the first consumer GPU to require a two-slot cooling solution and had a very loud fan. It quickly got the nickname "dustbuster". The Radeon 9700/9800 Pro were better all around performers, and probably sold in much higher numbers, making the 5800U rare and a neat little piece of history. It was also the first big nvidia flop after a string of success from TNT2 through Geforce 4.

Reply 12 of 31, by Anonymous Coward

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These cards are not for using. They are basically useless. They are for collecting. Collecting apparently is a thing, and apparently quite profitable.

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Reply 13 of 31, by matze79

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Uff FX suffered heavy from bad shader performance.. it was almost useless in every dx9.0b game..
my 9600XT easily beated a FX5950 in SM2.0...

I never saw a 3D Blaster VLB with 4Mb Upgrade and running a Direct3D Demo/Game.
Does it even exist ? neither i can find any video on YT showing this.

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Reply 14 of 31, by skv400

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matze79 wrote:
Uff FX suffered heavy from bad shader performance.. it was almost useless in every dx9.0b game.. my 9600XT easily beated a FX595 […]
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Uff FX suffered heavy from bad shader performance.. it was almost useless in every dx9.0b game..
my 9600XT easily beated a FX5950 in SM2.0...

I never saw a 3D Blaster VLB with 4Mb Upgrade and running a Direct3D Demo/Game.
Does it even exist ? neither i can find any video on YT showing this.

If upgrade 3d blaster vlb to 4mb, can run Direct3D games?

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Reply 15 of 31, by vetz

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The memory upgrade on the 3D Blaster VLB is very rare as it was only sold on mailorder directly from Creative for a limited amount of time. I have only seen USENET posts about it, no boards are known to exist in the hands of collectors. There isn't even any pictures of it.

See: Creative 3D Blaster VLB?

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Reply 16 of 31, by creepingnet

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A fine example of how E-bay has become a museum for vintage hardware. A lot of us got into this because it's a low-cost thing, so none of us could justify spending over $100, let alone $1000, on a piece of antiquated hardware. Especially something like this.

I love old wacky hardware like this, but in a lot of cases, the earliest examples are VERY limited in a lot of ways. To me, the best route to get 3D on a 486 is a PCI motherboard (Biostar MB8433UUD or a PC Chips M919 if going cheap), and put something like an ATI Rage II PCI or Mach64 card on there. It's a bit like old SCSI CD-R burners, limitations on discs that you can use, and write speeds - when I have a 486 that does it with an EIDE DVD-RW drive just fine.

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Reply 17 of 31, by matze79

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Yeah remembers me of the dos-reloaded guy named struuunz.. 486DX4 120 with V2 SLI.. pointless 😁 but funny.

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Reply 18 of 31, by dosgamer

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I don't think people even want it to actually use it. There are people looking to see what's rare and then buy that thing, just because it's rare, maybe just for the fun of owning something rare, or as an investment. In any case, supply and demand is a bitch. If there's only one item "X" that comes up on eBay every 5 years, and there are 10 people that really want it, prices will go through the roof.

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Reply 19 of 31, by Deksor

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Yeah but don't forget that this might be the same people (or just the same kind of people) behind that that has a certain amount of these at home and are selling these slowly just to get more money

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