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First post, by tayyare

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As the topic says which one would you choose to upgade a LGA775 Xeon E5450 system to its limits? Or would you not even bother?

The top thing is X5492 but I think it already became untouchable (went from 90 to 120+ USD just in the last two-three weeks), so these are the next best thing:

Xeon X5470----46USD 3.33GHz 1333MHz FSB 120W TDP SLBBF

Xeon X5482----26USD 3.20GHz 1600MHz FSB 120W TDP SLBBG

The only obvious differences are in FSB and CPU clocks.

Overclock potential is not a concern to me.

Both CPU is already modded for LGA775 sockets, motherboard (P5Q Premium) easily supports 120W and BIOS modded for Xeon support (according to related sites, it supports all Xeons including X5492 and currently working with a E5450)

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Reply 2 of 13, by voodoo5_6k

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I have an X5470, a great CPU. It is faster than all QXxxxx desktop models and you have the option to go PSB 1600 if your motherboard supports that, making the Xeon reach 4GHz. Because of its high multiplier it is usually considered the "secret" top model of the series, surpassing the X5492 which is only marginally faster than the X5470 on stock clock rate.

If you don't care for the $20,- delta, I'd say get the X5470! Get it right now 😎

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Reply 3 of 13, by tayyare

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The Serpent Rider wrote:

Why even bother (c)

I'm rying to squeeze the last bit of life out of my core 2 quad rig (it is also my main rig 😊). It originally had Q9550. I recently tested its Xeonability with an almost free E5450, Works stable for a month with all the mods and such, so now I'm looking for something a little better. A 26 to 46 USD upgrade is within my budget, so here is the question 🤣

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Reply 4 of 13, by tayyare

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voodoo5_6k wrote:

I have an X5470, a great CPU. It is faster than all QXxxxx desktop models and you have the option to go PSB 1600 if your motherboard supports that, making the Xeon reach 4GHz. Because of its high multiplier it is usually considered the "secret" top model of the series, surpassing the X5492 which is only marginally faster than the X5470 on stock clock rate.

If you don't care for the $20,- delta, I'd say get the X5470! Get it right now 😎

X5470 it is then 🤣

Thanks a lot!

Just another question: I'm still using my Q9550's stock cooler (it still works like a clock since 2009 without a hitch and never ever had any overheating problem). Considering that Q9550 was a 90W TDP CPU, I think I should finally need to find some 3rd party cooler more appropriate for a 120W TDP CPU, right?

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Reply 5 of 13, by The Serpent Rider

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I'm rying to squeeze the last bit of life ot of my core 2 quad rig

Just overclock your current CPU. Core 2 family has some bottlenecks with FSB anyway and 9x multiplier CPUs are perfect to overclock.

I think I should finally need to find some 3rd party cooler more appropriate for a 120W TDP CPU

Spend those 45$ for a decent cooler.

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Reply 6 of 13, by debs3759

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If I had to choose and could afford it, I woulf take the X5470 (higher multiplier) and overclock.

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Reply 8 of 13, by cyclone3d

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Once you get the FSB up around 450+ Mhz, Core 2 really starts to shine.

Last time I had one as my main machine, I was running a Q6600 at 3.84Ghz with a 480Mhz FSB. (1920).

The Gigabyte EP45-UD3P and boards in the same series are arguably the best LGA 775 boards ever made.

The P45 chipset can overclock the CPUs quite a bit more than the earlier chipsets. The P35 board I had maxed out at 3.6Ghz with my Q6600 and the i975x board I had before that maxed out at 3.2Ghz with the Q6600.

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Reply 9 of 13, by voodoo5_6k

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tayyare wrote:
X5470 it is then :lol: […]
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voodoo5_6k wrote:

I have an X5470, a great CPU. It is faster than all QXxxxx desktop models and you have the option to go PSB 1600 if your motherboard supports that, making the Xeon reach 4GHz. Because of its high multiplier it is usually considered the "secret" top model of the series, surpassing the X5492 which is only marginally faster than the X5470 on stock clock rate.

If you don't care for the $20,- delta, I'd say get the X5470! Get it right now 😎

X5470 it is then 🤣

Thanks a lot!

Just another question: I'm still using my Q9550's stock cooler (it still works like a clock since 2009 without a hitch and never ever had any overheating problem). Considering that Q9550 was a 90W TDP CPU, I think I should finally need to find some 3rd party cooler more appropriate for a 120W TDP CPU, right?

Yeah, that is definitely better. You'll have significantly lower temperatures and a lower noise level as well. I use a Thermalright Silver-Arrow in my build (Retro 4, linked in my signature). That one had no issues with a i7-3930K on socket 2011, so it should be fine even for heavily overclocked socket 775 CPUs. I think, everything that could handle socket 1366 should be fine.

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Reply 10 of 13, by tayyare

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Palladium wrote:

...Or you can camp Ebay for a refurb i5-3470 Dell without a HDD that runs circles around your rig for $90.

Ebay is not an option for me. Paypal stopped its business in Turkey. Local second hand core-I rigs are not cheap.

Plus, what will be the cost of a nice Asus mobo comparable to a P5Q Premium (10 SATA, 14 USB, all the other bells and whistles and rock solid build) that will take that CPU? and what about RAM (mine is DDR2)? 🤣

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Reply 11 of 13, by The Serpent Rider

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Now worth it. Look for a cheap QX9650 with unlocked multiplier if you absolutely sure you want to upgrade. Or just overclock.

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Reply 12 of 13, by Palladium

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tayyare wrote:
Palladium wrote:

...Or you can camp Ebay for a refurb i5-3470 Dell without a HDD that runs circles around your rig for $90.

Ebay is not an option for me. Paypal stopped its business in Turkey. Local second hand core-I rigs are not cheap.

Plus, what will be the cost of a nice Asus mobo comparable to a P5Q Premium (10 SATA, 14 USB, all the other bells and whistles and rock solid build) that will take that CPU? and what about RAM (mine is DDR2)? 🤣

In that case you might well save up for a Ryzen 2600 + B360 + DDR4.

Reply 13 of 13, by tayyare

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The Serpent Rider wrote:

Now worth it. Look for a cheap QX9650 with unlocked multiplier if you absolutely sure you want to upgrade. Or just
overclock.

This is actually what I'm trying to do:

Cheap QX9650 = X5470 🤣

Core 2 Extreme QX9650 --- 85USD (3.00GHz 1333MHz FSB 130W 45nm Yorkfield)
Xeon X5470 --- 46USD (3.33GHz 1333MHz FSB 120W 45nm Harpertown)

Actually X5470 is cheaper and better. (at rated clock speeds, of course) This is why people are modding Xeons for 775 sockets I guess. I don't like overclocking much, but considering that I have good hardware (Hyperx 1066 RAM, P5Q Premium mobo, etc.) I think I'll look into it more.

https://www.delidded.com/lga-771-to-775-adapter/

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