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Reply 20 of 36, by dondiego

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AFAIK 30 pin EDO modules never existed. I'm a computer technician and never heard of them.
About that link i don't see 30 pin modules being mentioned there.

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Reply 22 of 36, by Thermalwrong

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Intel486dx33 wrote:

These are the Sound Cards I have.
Which ones should I use ?
Some also have a Yamaha OPL chip.

That's quite a selection 😀 I recommend the Opti 929 card, it has extra IDE, which could be quite useful, and like you say it has a real OPL3 chip on it. In my experience, it's pretty easy to get working in DOS, does not work so well in Windows 98 but I think is a bit more compatible with Windows 3.11 and Windows 95.
That card that looks like an AWE64 with no ROM, I think that was supposedly a SoundBlaster 16/32 card, it doesn't have any wavetable functionality.

Of the controller cards, probably the green one with the Winbond chips, they should all be fairly similar in performance / compatibility. I recall someone praising the Goldstar card as well.

Reply 23 of 36, by Disruptor

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Do not take the Adaptec card, it's a non-busmaster SCSI adapter except you have SCSI drives.

The Promise EIDEmax seems to have a BIOS that may support IDE discs greater than 2 GB. But it does not have any floppy or RS-232 connector. Perhaps you can use one of your other controller cards with disabled IDE port.

Reply 24 of 36, by gdjacobs

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Intel486dx33 wrote:

These are the Sound Cards I have.
Which ones should I use ?
Some also have a Yamaha OPL chip.

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What you choose to go with depends on what you want to do. An AWE64, for instance, is more at home as a Windows card due to the non MPU-401 interface of the EMU chip requiring software emulation. The PAS 16 is a nice card and has onboard SCSI but there's less software with direct support.

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Reply 25 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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Yes, I did not realize the ISA controller cards only have one IDE connector.
I will have to use another card with IDE connector for the CDROM.

I can use two audio cards.
If I use the AWE64 as my primary can I use the Yamaha OPL MIDI driver from the other card in my MIDI devices setting ?
Going to be running DOS and Win3x.

Reply 26 of 36, by dondiego

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Of course not, you can hook up to two devices to a single ide port.
About the sound card forget about that. I'd just use the "decent sb pro clone".

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Reply 27 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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Okay,
Graphics - ET4000 graphics card.
Memory - EDO 8-16mb.
CPU - Intel 486dx-50
CDROM - 4x - 12x speed
Network card - 3com 3c509
Audio - Turtle beach , Monte Carlo , ISA ( Opti 929 - Crystal / with Yamaha OPL build in. Also has an IDE port for CDROM drive ).
And Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA.
Power Supply - 450-watt ATX PSU with AT adapter.
Hard-drive - CF card adapter with 4-8gb card. ( San Disk Extreme )
OS - DOS / Win 3x
Case - Antec VSKe4000
Floppy drive

Do I need a CPU fan for a 486dx2-50 ?

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Reply 28 of 36, by dondiego

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Not okay, as we said you can't install EDO ram on that mobo. Also you don't need the extra ide port.
You'll need at least a heatsink, it's not needed for the dx-33.

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Reply 30 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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What driver will work with this card ?

I think it is a Sound Blaster clone ?

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Some said it is a "Monte Carlo (Turtle Beach) " ?

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Reply 33 of 36, by stamasd

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There are some drivers at http://files.mpoli.fi/hardware/SOUND/TURT/
I haven't tested any of them as I don't have any Turtle Beach cards.

Also don't think that the ATAPI/IDE on some sound cards will be useful for a HDD, especially not one that you expect to boot from. You still need a separate controller for those.

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Reply 34 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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No, The IDE controller is for a CDROM drive.

Thanks for the link.

I had to order some NEW serial port ribbons. So I have to put this build on hold until they arrive.

Reply 35 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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I want to get started on this 486dx-50 build but I need to fit these motherboards first with NEW batteries.
What is the best way to replace these Dallas batteries ?
Should I just buy a NEW one or modify these motherboards with a CR2032 Nickel type battery ?

After close inspection it appears that these dallas batteries are not removable other than desoldering.

Is there any problem with leakage if I leave these dallas batteries inplace and perform a CR2032 mod to this battery ?

Or should I just remove the Dallas battery and add a CR2032 nickel battery holder ?

Reply 36 of 36, by skitters

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Intel486dx33 wrote:

Is there any problem with leakage if I leave these dallas batteries inplace and perform a CR2032 mod to this battery ?

The Dallas batteries don't leak.

Or should I just remove the Dallas battery and add a CR2032 nickel battery holder ?

The Dallas RTC is more than a battery. Unless your motherboard has the option of using an external battery instead of the Dallas, you'll still need the Dallas. The CR2032 holder gets soldered to the appropriate parts of the Dallas.

Here's a guide
http://mcamafia.de/mcapage0/dsrework.htm