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First post, by versawizkid2002

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Hello. I have a Dell OptiPlex GX110 in the small form factor variety. I picked it up for $30 at a thrift store, which isn't a bad price considering how much any GX110 goes for on fleaBay. The specs I got are a 667MHz Coppermine Pentium III for Socket 370, 256MB of PC-100 memory, an 8GB hard drive (I swapped out for an 80GB), onboard Intel 810E graphics, and a Sound Blaster AudioPCI CT5807 for the sound card. Now, that sound card is really important and leads to my question.

My particular GX110 does not have onboard audio. While onboard audio is frowned upon for DOS and vintage computers in general, this is a downside for me as I have to use a PCI card. However, I cannot get sound out of the AudioPCI, or my other sound card I bought for it, a Sound Blaster Live CT4780. I know both cards work because I tested them in another system and I can get sound out of the cards. But in this particular system, I can't get sound out of them.

I've tried a bunch of things. Tried the sound drivers in Windows 98, it constantly froze up, installed Windows 2000, unbearably slow, installed XP, it installs all the drivers but get no sound from the AudioPCI, tried a few different drivers for the card, still get no sound. The problems are even worse with the CT4780: it doesn't show up in the BIOS at all, and if I'm lucky, it will show as an (unknown manufacturer) comm. adapter and Windows will try to pick it up. That gets no sound out of it, and trying to install the Creative drivers tells me I have no Creative hardware in my system. Shutting down after the card is picked up will lead to the system freezing up on "Windows is shutting down..."

I've tried changing the IRQ assignment and the sound card, along with the onboard video, seem to have and switch to the same IRQ number. I don't know anything about IRQs, but I've heard that having the same number for two devices causes an IRQ conflict, and I can't seem to get the video and sound card on seperate IRQs unless they are supposed to be the same.

When I got my GX110, I noticed it had a pretty hacked up install of XP, which gets me thinking the BIOS may have gotten a little bit messed up.

Anybody with a GX110 just like this or similar system with no onboard audio, do you know what could be causing this? At this point, I can only think I have a bad riser card (I'm having a heck of a time finding one) or a bad motherboard (which cost a fortune and basically do not exist online). I really want to get this computer's sound working, it would seem like a decent computer for old games and I don't have a lot of room or money for something bigger/nicer.

Main PC AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 16GB DDR4-3000, AMD Radeon RX 570 8GB, Asus Prime X470-Pro, 256SSD/2TBHD/2x750HD, W10 Pro 1903
Retro PC/2002 Custom Built AMD Athlon XP 2000+ TB-A, 512MB DDR, ATI Radeon 9200 128MB, Asus A7N266-VM/AA, 80GB, Win98SE + XP SP1

Reply 1 of 12, by detritus olentus

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I've got two of the tower model. My first thought is to pull out the riser card assembly and clean the contacts on the board. Dell also is very good with keeping their drivers and such online so you could reflash the bios if you felt like it.

https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/pr … x-gx110/drivers

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Reply 2 of 12, by versawizkid2002

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I think I've tried cleaning the contacts before, didn't help. But if it's inside the riser card slot, I'm not exactly sure what to use to clean the slot. I might try reflashing the BIOS, hopefully I don't brick it in the process.
It has A09, the latest BIOS for it. Hopefully flashing the same version doesn't corrupt it on something this old.

Main PC AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 16GB DDR4-3000, AMD Radeon RX 570 8GB, Asus Prime X470-Pro, 256SSD/2TBHD/2x750HD, W10 Pro 1903
Retro PC/2002 Custom Built AMD Athlon XP 2000+ TB-A, 512MB DDR, ATI Radeon 9200 128MB, Asus A7N266-VM/AA, 80GB, Win98SE + XP SP1

Reply 3 of 12, by detritus olentus

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There's also riser cards reasonably priced on eBay but I suppose if you aren't in the US that shipping might be a bit nasty.

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Reply 4 of 12, by versawizkid2002

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A riser card is a bit tough to find. It needs to have the right connector (long, two notches) and have two PCI slots, no more to it. Hopefully I can find one (or a link to one) for a decent price.

Main PC AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 16GB DDR4-3000, AMD Radeon RX 570 8GB, Asus Prime X470-Pro, 256SSD/2TBHD/2x750HD, W10 Pro 1903
Retro PC/2002 Custom Built AMD Athlon XP 2000+ TB-A, 512MB DDR, ATI Radeon 9200 128MB, Asus A7N266-VM/AA, 80GB, Win98SE + XP SP1

Reply 5 of 12, by detritus olentus

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B07 … &condition=used

That's all I've been able to find with 2 PCI slots

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Reply 6 of 12, by versawizkid2002

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That's... quite a lot. More than the price I paid of the computer itself ($30), but it is the correct riser.

Main PC AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 16GB DDR4-3000, AMD Radeon RX 570 8GB, Asus Prime X470-Pro, 256SSD/2TBHD/2x750HD, W10 Pro 1903
Retro PC/2002 Custom Built AMD Athlon XP 2000+ TB-A, 512MB DDR, ATI Radeon 9200 128MB, Asus A7N266-VM/AA, 80GB, Win98SE + XP SP1

Reply 7 of 12, by dicky96

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How much are these GX110 actually worth on ebay? I want to sell the one i have and was going to use as a win98 rig, until I was given a working Super Socket 7 PC for free so now I no longer intend to complete that project.

I can see one GX110 asking for £99 but no bids, and that one was previously listed for £130 with no bids. But doing an advanced search on ebay.co.uk the only SOLD listing recently for a GX110 is this one from October which, funnily enough, was sold in my home town of Stoke-on-Trent and only fetch a single bid of £3,40 (less than $5). SO is this a case of sellers thinking they are worth money but buyers thinking they are not?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Optiplex-GX11 … JMAAOSwy6RboBeJ

Reply 8 of 12, by versawizkid2002

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Hmm, interesting. These GX110s are priced way too high, and apparently people seem to foolishly buy them for $80+ USD, way more than I think they're worth.
Even motherboards cost too much to be worth buying...

Main PC AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 16GB DDR4-3000, AMD Radeon RX 570 8GB, Asus Prime X470-Pro, 256SSD/2TBHD/2x750HD, W10 Pro 1903
Retro PC/2002 Custom Built AMD Athlon XP 2000+ TB-A, 512MB DDR, ATI Radeon 9200 128MB, Asus A7N266-VM/AA, 80GB, Win98SE + XP SP1

Reply 10 of 12, by versawizkid2002

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UPDATE: I have now junked this computer. It has come to the point where it's not worth my time anymore just trying to fix ONE problem that makes me not want to use it. Guess I'll wait on getting a better Windows 98 rig.

Main PC AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, 16GB DDR4-3000, AMD Radeon RX 570 8GB, Asus Prime X470-Pro, 256SSD/2TBHD/2x750HD, W10 Pro 1903
Retro PC/2002 Custom Built AMD Athlon XP 2000+ TB-A, 512MB DDR, ATI Radeon 9200 128MB, Asus A7N266-VM/AA, 80GB, Win98SE + XP SP1

Reply 12 of 12, by computerguy08

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I've just got an Optiplex GX110 SFF (same as yours) for free from a friend and it was really dirty (cd-rom drive didn't even work, the hard drive was constantly dropping power, etc..).
I gave her a proper shower wash (motherboard, PSU, everything!) and it fixed itself (everything works fine). I will install Win98SE on it with a SB Live! CT4830 soon.

If you have throwed it away and can get it back, I can help you get it running.