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Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby karl80038 » 2019-9-14 @ 22:00

When I decided to visit Intel's website to download a BIOS update for my D865PERL desktop board (https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/8408/BIOS-Update-RL86510A-86A-, I noticed this very sad message:

End Of Life - This download, BIOS Update [RL86510A.86A] P21, will no longer be available after November 22, 2019 and will not be supported with any additional functional, security, or other updates. All versions are provided as is. Intel recommends that users of BIOS Update [RL86510A.86A] P21 uninstall and/or discontinue use as soon as possible.


Unfortunately, they'll be removing all BIOS download links to all Intel desktop boards on that very same date (even the later Sandy Bridge boards)
It seems Intel wants to wipe out their entire desktop board support section from their website.
Now is the perfect time to download and archive their BIOS files for all their boards and maybe host them on VOGONS drivers website. If anybody has access to a list containing all the desktop boards Intel has ever produced, I'd be very grateful. While visiting the Intel desktop board's subforum, I also discovered Intel had already removed all their drivers just two days ago (!!) (on September 13th, 2019). So for those who're owning a vintage Intel motherboard (or maybe not so vintage), be sure to get them while you can (assuming you still haven't updated the BIOS).
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby cyclone3d » 2019-9-14 @ 22:12

Looks like somebody backed up the Intel FTP in 2014 so anything as of January 2014 should be good.
https://archive.org/details/2014.01.download.intel.com

Here is an ft that has older stuff as well:
ftp://ftp.spez.com.ua/driver/mb/intel/

But yeah, anybody want to take on the task of getting all the more current stuff?

If somebody comes up with the wget script to get it all, I can download and upload to archive.org.
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby karl80038 » 2019-9-14 @ 22:43

It appears to be even worse. They're also removing old graphics drivers (and maybe even something else )from their website too, and that is bound to happen even earlier, the October 11th. Looks like i'll be downloading as many old drivers as I could. Luckily, getting older graphics drivers is a lot easier job than getting older BIOS updates, because multiple vendors like DELL still have them on their website for download. This is such an HP move (HP tends to remove drivers for most non-business products that are older than 10 years old from their website), you'd think, them being a large corporation, would have room to keep all this stuff. I am so disappointed in Intel, I used consider them trustworthy when it comes to downloading drivers, but I guess I was wrong. I could also archive direct download links on Intel's website directly to Archive.org. Anything older than 2011 will likely be removed from Intel's site :depressed: .
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby jarreboum » 2019-9-15 @ 07:25

It has already started. Only drivers for the most current OS can be found for Network chips now

https://twitter.com/Foone/status/117223 ... 78016?s=20
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby kwyjibo » 2019-9-15 @ 08:18

I noticed something similar on HP website.

A few months ago I could download several recovery images for xpe for a given ThinClient and now only the most recent image is available...
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby Solplay » 2019-9-15 @ 08:39

Terrible, just terrible. Much thanks for the heads-up though, I never considered that Intel would be this stupid to remove all of their useful legacy drivers. Especially when they are not even taking up a concerning amount of space.
karl80038 wrote:If anybody has access to a list containing all the desktop boards Intel has ever produced, I'd be very grateful.

I don't quite think that this is all of it, but it should help: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kiZ ... sp=sharing
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby AmiSapphire » 2019-9-15 @ 08:47

Unfortunately I expected this since last year, like the HP thing in 2017. Especially when they said they were revamping their site then, too. :confused:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=60219&p=672727#p672727

A lot of their older stuff was already gone before that as well. I only noticed when I was looking for additional technical notes to archive for my Intel SAI2 server board... They were pretty much gone from their site, but the archive.org link cyclone3d posted had had them. That was the same day I grabbed a local copy and then eventually mirrored it on my site.

The only other thing I archived (in late 2014) were practically everything for the Intel DG41RQ desktop board: BIOSes from the earliest to the latest, drivers for XP, Vista, and 7, docs (manuals, specs, references), and utilities, which I keep forgetting where I stored them. It's nearly 500MB for that alone; imagine grabbing most of the modern stuff from Intel's site!

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kwyjibo wrote:I noticed something similar on HP website.

A few months ago I could download several recovery images for xpe for a given ThinClient and now only the most recent image is available...

Depressing. Just depressing. :depressed:

Edit 2:
Just remembered. Despite what I said in that thread I linked last year, most of the files for 2000s and 2010s boards weren't in that download.intel.com FTP archive unless it was products from the '90s and early 2000s (My SAI2 section only had PDF files and one HTML file, but I mirrored the BIOSes, drivers, and utilities they had back then, and imaged the SAI2 CD I had as well), as those were stored on another server. Safe to say those will be pretty much gone at some point.
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby derSammler » 2019-9-15 @ 08:50

It seems Intel wants to wipe out their entire desktop board support section from their website.

No offense, but I think you are a bit off here. They will remove that download after more than 14 years. Yes, that's how long they kept it online so far. If you click on the older versions of the BIOS on the left, you'll see that they are offline already since they reached an age of 15 years and more. 15 years seems to be their deadline for downloads, and that is long, very long. It's totally fine for me if a company stops offering downloads that are older than 15 years.

Also, there's absolutely no indication that they will kill all legacy product downloads any time soon. They "kill" what is 15 years or older, just like they always did. Newer stuff has shorter deadlines, but who cares anyway?
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby karl80038 » 2019-9-15 @ 10:35

No, Intel is indeed removing everything, even the BIOS update for the LGA1155 motherboard (DH67BL) will be removed, just take a look at this:
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28273/BIOS-Update-BLH6710H-86A-
The BIOS update for this board was released just last year and they'll be already taking it down this November.
Dell still seems to have drivers for 20 year old computers like the Dell Optiplex GX1, just take a look: https://www.dell.com/support/home/ee/en/eebsdt1/product-support/product/optiplex-gx1/drivers
Companies can take down older downloads as they please (nothing in this world last forever after all), for sure, but the fact that DELL and Lenovo (older downloads are available at https://download.lenovo.com/eol) manage to keep downloads for their older products, but the companies like HP and Intel are unable to means when I'll be shopping for a new computer, I would definitely lean towards buying a computer from the former companies. That shows me that at least some companies care about very few customers, who still have older computers kicking around and would perhaps want to reinstall the original operating system and be able to find drivers for that system with ease. But that's just my opinion, everybody is welcome to have their own opinion.
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby karl80038 » 2019-9-15 @ 10:39

Thanks Solplay for the list. I'll see what I can do.
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby kolderman » 2019-9-15 @ 13:29

Why would they remove bios updates for current/new boards? Will boards no longer have bioses?
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby ShovelKnight » 2019-9-15 @ 13:52

They stopped making new motherboards after Haswell, so there haven't been new Intel motherboards for quite a while.
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby kolderman » 2019-9-15 @ 19:05

Haha ok.
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby SirNickity » 2019-9-16 @ 19:13

Wow. Intel was one of those vendors I always trusted for long-term support. D--- move, Intel.
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby Caluser2000 » 2019-9-16 @ 22:34

The sites may go. The ftps normally hang around quite a bit longer. a lot of people forget that.
There's a glitch in the matrix.
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby Horun » 2019-9-19 @ 02:40

Since I own a VS440FX and MU440EX and will try to DL all the "Legacy" last BIOS and post to usenet somewhere.
I cannot find any of the BIOS thru their ftp so may not get all the old boards listed as will have to DL thru their support website.
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby cyclone3d » 2019-9-19 @ 03:14

Horun wrote:Since I own a VS440FX and MU440EX and will try to DL all the "Legacy" last BIOS and post to usenet somewhere.
I cannot find any of the BIOS thru their ftp so may not get all the old boards listed as will have to DL thru their support website.


Why not post to archive.org? Much easier for people to get to than usenet and it is free.
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby AmiSapphire » 2019-9-19 @ 04:17

Horun wrote:Since I own a VS440FX and MU440EX and will try to DL all the "Legacy" last BIOS and post to usenet somewhere.
I cannot find any of the BIOS thru their ftp so may not get all the old boards listed as will have to DL thru their support website.

Good luck. I went after what was left of their Server BIOSes because those will be gone on October rather than late November. Neither of those BIOSes post-2000 are on the FTP archive.

Also, archive.org (Internet Archive) would be a more ideal choice nowadays, per cyclone3d. Will have to upload my Intel SAI2 Resource CD image to there at some point...
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby PC Hoarder Patrol » 2019-9-19 @ 06:56

The (latest?) bios for those two boards are still available thru downloadcenter at

MU440EX - https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/50442/intel-desktop-board-mu440ex

Also, this is a screencap list of what was there this time last year when I took a full snapshot
Intel MU440EX Support Files.zip
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VS440FX - https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/50563/Intel-Desktop-Board-VS440FX

Another site which still seems to host many of these files is

ftp://oisellerie.org/drivers/Intel/
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Re: Intel to remove all BIOS updates on November 22nd, 2019 from their website

Postby Horun » 2019-9-20 @ 03:37

Thanks all. Yeah Intel already removed a bunch of support files for most legacy desktop boards prior to their "Nov 22" deadline compared to a year ago or more. Only the latest BIOS file and main board manual for the MU440EX remains. No drivers exist that I can currently find though a few years ago they (Intel) hosted many, same with the DQ77MK board. I will do my best to grab what is left of the BIOS and manuals before they are all gone.
Note: the 2014.01.download.intel.com at Archive .org does not contain much for desktop boards but does have a lot of docs for the server boards.
The BIOS files have original Intel naming and many are hard to figure which board they go to.
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