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First post, by cyclone3d

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I just purchased an NEC Proserva V Plus as well as an additional motherboard and power supply.

The person I got them from has multiple of these but doesn't really want to ship any more of them.

The general system specs from what I know are:

Dual socket 7 with 2x Pentium 200MMX (maybe non-mmx)
Onboard Cirrus Logic video
3 PCI slots, 6 EISA slots (1 shared).. at least they look like EISA from the pics.
8x 72-pin RAM slots - supports ECC according to what I could find.
onboard SCSI - internal and external

Depending on where they are located, would anybody here want to do something like the PPRO haul?

I don't need any more of them. I just don't like seeing stuff like this scrapped.

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Reply 1 of 284, by kwyjibo

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What was the PPRO haul?

I am interested in any case. I was searching for a branded computer tower form factor dual socket 7 for some time.

Reply 2 of 284, by cyclone3d

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Pentium Pro haul of 2018:
The great Pentium Pro haul of 2018

I can't imagine how much shipping from the USA to Spain would be for one of these NEC systems.. but definitely not cheap.

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Reply 3 of 284, by cyclone3d

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These systems are available in the Topeka, Kansas area.

I wouldn't be the one doing a buy, but if anybody wants, I can put them in touch with the person that has these (getting ready to scrap / part out). I would get nothing out of this. Just trying to prevent some nice old systems from being scrapped.

These systems came from NOAA
https://www.noaa.gov/

The drives of course have been removed.

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Reply 4 of 284, by thepirategamerboy12

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Man, It'd be a shame for them to be scrapped. I've gotta say that I personally really like the look of the cases on older NEC computer in general (E.g NEC Ready, PC-98, etc.)

Reply 5 of 284, by BinaryDemon

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I saw one of these on eBay the other day. I assumed it was socket 370 for a second because dual socket 7 is so rare.

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Reply 6 of 284, by cyclone3d

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BinaryDemon wrote:

I saw one of these on eBay the other day. I assumed it was socket 370 for a second because dual socket 7 is so rare.

That was probably the one I bought that you saw. I was surprised I was the only bidder.

Last edited by cyclone3d on 2019-11-05, 01:20. Edited 2 times in total.

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Reply 8 of 284, by feipoa

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If there is little to no cost for the system and I just need to pay ground shipping to Canada, I'm interested. I've always liked the high-end classy look of these NEC systems.

EDIT: It's also interesting to see that the system got away with a case fan and not direct heatsink fan.

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Reply 9 of 284, by cyclone3d

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If anybody has access to the manual or utilities for this server it would be awesome.

NEC links to their old ftp server which apparently no longer exists.
https://support.necam.com/Drivers/?M=453&x=14&y=7

Searching for the file names yields nothing.

Edit:
Can anybody actually get to ftp.necam.com ?

It looks like it was definitely up as of last year at least.

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Reply 10 of 284, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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ftp site seems unreachable and none of the mirror archives seem to fair any better.

I assume the user manual HLP file might be a standalone version of this

ProServa V Plus Online Service Reference

Table of Contents - https://web.archive.org/web/19991003025226/ht … 4000903908.html

Index - https://web.archive.org/web/19991011063005/ht … 03908index.html

Afraid you'll have to use your imagination for the illustrations which weren't archived, but there's a good page on jumper settings under 'Configuration'

BTW, is that an Intel chassis its built in?

Reply 11 of 284, by H3nrik V!

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Wow, just WOW.

I really hope somebody will get into saving these. Unfortunately, I can't even think of the shipping price for me - or I would have loved to own one ..

Reply 12 of 284, by dionb

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That is one beautiful system. i430HX chipset with EISA southbridge(s), 2 tag RAMs for 512MB L2 cachable. It looks like an Intel OEM motherboard design (those jumpers along the front are a dead giveaway), and it wouldn't surprise me if the case was Intel too - in those days NEC was basically an Intel-only system integrator.

The only downsides are directly related to Intel-design:
- soldered RTC that needs replacing or hacking in-situ.
- soldered SMD flash instead of socketed BIOS, so careful with those updates...

Unfortunately I'm not even on the right continent to do anything sensible about rescueing these systems 😢

Reply 14 of 284, by cyclone3d

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He is also selling the power supplies separately.

He told me that there were originally 175 of these systems... If it was a few hours closer to me I might be up for saving them.. but as it is, it would be around 15 hours each way.

They were also sold under a Zenith Data Systems part number.. Zenith merged with NEC / Packard Bell in 1996.

@PC Hoarder Patrol - thanks for those links. I think that should be all that is really needed.

Edit: Full list of archived Proserva V Plus pages from that site - make sure to go back to 1999 to access them:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://support. … roServerVPlus/*

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Reply 15 of 284, by kwyjibo

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cyclone3d wrote:

Pentium Pro haul of 2018:
The great Pentium Pro haul of 2018

I can't imagine how much shipping from the USA to Spain would be for one of these NEC systems.. but definitely not cheap.

Still interested. Shipping will be cheaper than waiting for a local opportunity.

I imagine that the success of the operation depends in some local heroe(s) close enough and with enough storing space... Go for it! 😜

Reply 17 of 284, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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A bit more digging indicates that the ProServa is a rebrand of the Zenith (ZDS) Z-Server WL

https://web.archive.org/web/19970517193830/ht … vers/5_3b1.html

Sadly, the documentation (ref. ZDSDOCS00600100) was never archived though the software library was 😀

https://web.archive.org/web/19980702025406/ht … drv/cat026.html

some of these files need a decompression utility

https://web.archive.org/web/19980702025104/ht … drv/cat154.html

As the RTC looks like the ramified DS1387 (so no direct replacement), it'll either work or it's a mod job.

Reply 18 of 284, by cyclone3d

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HAHA!!!!! Yes! 😲 😀 😎

The documentation for the Z-Server WL is included in the Packard Bell ftp archive.

I'll post it all up once I finish digging through the ZDSDOCS00600100 folder.

Edit: The user manual is there... but I need to edit the HTML so the links don't point to the ftp.. and so the dumb spiral notebook background is not there because it goes right through the middle of the page and makes stuff unreadable.

Edit:
So that folder contains the "Z-CD".. which is information on pretty much all of the systems they had around that time.
I didn't actually edit anything. It will run fine as long as you set the screen resolution to 1024x768.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=17UziKMDDO2D … 4OMFVPZ_1E6SkJG

Last edited by cyclone3d on 2019-11-06, 05:50. Edited 2 times in total.

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