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The quest for the perfect retro laptop: a saga

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Reply 520 of 528, by keenmaster486

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vorob wrote on 2021-05-04, 16:49:

Guys, count my money...

Toshiba Libretto 50 CTA in perfect condition, with Pentium 75 and docking station - 215 USD. Too expensive or good buy? For collection and maybe re-selling it in future with bigger price.

Not sure, those seem to be hot lately. Personally I'd pay $150 but maybe there just aren't that many left on the market.

I flermmed the plootash just like you asked.

Reply 521 of 528, by creepingnet

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keenmaster486 wrote on 2021-05-04, 16:52:
vorob wrote on 2021-05-04, 16:49:

Guys, count my money...

Toshiba Libretto 50 CTA in perfect condition, with Pentium 75 and docking station - 215 USD. Too expensive or good buy? For collection and maybe re-selling it in future with bigger price.

Not sure, those seem to be hot lately. Personally I'd pay $150 but maybe there just aren't that many left on the market.

I'd say $150 would be right - collectively that's roughly what I paid for my NEC Versa M/75 ($75) and AT&T Globalyst DS ($50) docking station (Versadock II in AT&T branding).

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Reply 522 of 528, by vorob

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Rechecked. This dude replaced the CCFL light with LED, so the screen was disassembled. Can't say it's a bad move, but there are some scratches on the screen corner and I better go for original parts.

Honestly, I already have a perfect retro machine, from my point of view - Toshiba 2805 with Yamaha and Geforce 2. But I just can't stop, so now I monitor the Russian eBay market (avito.ru) and search for old garbage that I can buy 😀

In my pursuit to find a good old laptop I currently own:

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Dell Latitude D800 - my first retro machine, found it thrown out in Denmark, was used in Dansk Design School. Still works. Still a perfect thing.

And now stuff that I bought. Lots of laptops were bought just because I'm a lazy ass that doesn't wanna dig information. I was searching simultaneously for good native dos matching and a good dx9 powerful machine. One rule was applied in both directions, these machines must run Thief, an essential game in my life.

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Compaq Evo n600c
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Compaq Evo n400c - ultra-portable (was shocked that such piece of tech existed in 2000), nice, have sound in native dos, bad video card, can't run Thief II. No general midi
Compaq Evo n600c - same as previous, but can run Thief II.

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IBM ThinkPad R60 & Toshiba Tecra S3
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IBM ThinkPad R60 - good for middle 2000 games, x1400 can run Half-Life 2, Thief III, and DOOM 3 with EAX (from PCMCIA card). Extremely bad screen, not old, just piece of shit.
Toshiba Tecra S3 - same idea as the previous laptop, but GeForce 6600 is bad for old games, too many issues that prevent playing them natively. And also an Extremely bad screen. Not old, just piece of shit.

Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 1546 (Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 1546, or my final step for an ultimate old gaming machine) - a real gem, ATI x1900 onboard, most powerful dx9 card that still supports old games, palette textures, dithering, and so on. Geforce failed in the 6th generation and ATI kept it all working until the last day of dx9. Have two of them, just because... Also good speakers, perfect screen.

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MacBook Pro Late 2006 (A1211)
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MacBook Pro Late 2006 (A1211) - same as for Fujitsu just GPU is weaker - ATI X1600, but more compact and nice looking machine 😀

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Toshiba Satellite 2805 vs. Toshiba Satellite 5205
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Toshiba Satellite 2805 - already said, a best possible laptop that has native DOS, late 90th Windows games, good scaling, general midi, and so on, and can run Thief II!
Toshiba Satellite 5205-S705- Well... Same as the previous one, but can't run in native DOS since it uses a WDM soundcard. But Geforce 5 gives nGlide support for 3dfx titles, Windows 98 allows to play DOS games with good Yamaha General Midi and the screen is gorgeous, it's even good by today's standards. So if a DOS game runs on it, and doesn't require real native DOS I prefer to play it on this laptop instead of 2805 which is perfect, but the screen is older...

Reply 523 of 528, by keenmaster486

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The Thinkpad 240 battery (first one from my order of two) charged all the way up. Now I will unplug and see how long it lasts.

I flermmed the plootash just like you asked.

Reply 525 of 528, by keenmaster486

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I have a feeling these might have been recelled at some point, or they are simply in very good condition.

I didn't bother draining this first battery all the way down, since it was taking so long.

46 minutes and it was down to 80%. If it drains at the same rate the whole time, that would be a 3.5 hour battery life.

I'll do a fuller test later when I have actual work to do on the machine.

Now I will charge it back up and try the other one.

I flermmed the plootash just like you asked.

Reply 527 of 528, by vorob

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My mind and pocket struggle between two laptops:

Toshiba T4700CT and Toshiba T2150CDT. The first one is old and fat like I want, but shitty WSS sound brings depression over me, plus there are now batter, charger, and this weird mouse ball thing. The second one is not that old, 1995 year, have build-in power supply and good sound. 55USD vs 80USD.

Trying to understand which one has more history value 😀

Reply 528 of 528, by ragefury32

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keenmaster486 wrote on 2021-05-04, 16:52:
vorob wrote on 2021-05-04, 16:49:

Guys, count my money...

Toshiba Libretto 50 CTA in perfect condition, with Pentium 75 and docking station - 215 USD. Too expensive or good buy? For collection and maybe re-selling it in future with bigger price.

Not sure, those seem to be hot lately. Personally I'd pay $150 but maybe there just aren't that many left on the market.

Eh, that's probably because the LCDs are around the time when they are about to age out, and some of the smarter owners are letting them go before they plummet in value. You are seeing the same thing in the Japanese used market with PC110s and the ThinkPad 235/Hitachi FloraNote 210s. If you think the price is ridiculous I recently lost an eBay bid for an HP Omnibook 800CT - that one went to 400 USD.