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Reply 860 of 907, by Horun

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How about when someone on a site posts: AT Computer Motherboard 8 ISA Slots for sale.
Condition:“Tested & Working”
And this is the picture....
Hmmm sure that should work just fine w/o the BIOS chip and KBC but what do I know ;p

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Hate posting a reply and have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣 Second computer a 286 12Mhz with real IDE drive ! After that came 386, 486, Pentium, P.Pro and everything after....

Reply 861 of 907, by kdr

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imi wrote on 2020-10-08, 21:55:

well... don't ask me how the plastic didn't shatter.

I unscrewed the frame and snapped it back together, but I can hear loose parts inside will have to take a deeper look :c
...would have been in really good condition too.

Nooooo.... another 1084 bites the dust!

I hope you're able to save it. Maybe the loose bits are just some plastic fragments. [One can hope.]

Reply 862 of 907, by pixel_workbench

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Horun wrote on 2020-10-08, 23:33:
How about when someone on a site posts: AT Computer Motherboard 8 ISA Slots for sale. Condition:“Tested & Working” And this is […]
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How about when someone on a site posts: AT Computer Motherboard 8 ISA Slots for sale.
Condition:“Tested & Working”
And this is the picture....
Hmmm sure that should work just fine w/o the BIOS chip and KBC but what do I know ;p

That reminds me of sellers who post "tested working" graphic cards (like an fx5700) with a clearly missing heatsink/fan.

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Reply 863 of 907, by canthearu

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Horun wrote on 2020-10-08, 23:33:
How about when someone on a site posts: AT Computer Motherboard 8 ISA Slots for sale. Condition:“Tested & Working” And this is […]
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How about when someone on a site posts: AT Computer Motherboard 8 ISA Slots for sale.
Condition:“Tested & Working”
And this is the picture....
Hmmm sure that should work just fine w/o the BIOS chip and KBC but what do I know ;p

Lol, no chance in hell he had that going, with SIPP memory modules required and missing processor (in addition to missing BIOS and KBC)

Reply 864 of 907, by SodaSuccubus

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Horun wrote on 2020-10-08, 23:33:
How about when someone on a site posts: AT Computer Motherboard 8 ISA Slots for sale. Condition:“Tested & Working” And this is […]
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How about when someone on a site posts: AT Computer Motherboard 8 ISA Slots for sale.
Condition:“Tested & Working”
And this is the picture....
Hmmm sure that should work just fine w/o the BIOS chip and KBC but what do I know ;p

Oh I recognize that seller 🙁

Nothing makes me cringe harder then people who deal with computer parts often and yet still take pictures of them *on carpet!*

Atleast put a anti static bag down first!

Reply 865 of 907, by Shreddoc

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Nintendo Wii U's (<--sorry, I'll get that odd one out of the way immediately), Roland MT-32s, MIDI modules galore, Gravis Ultrasounds, PWM screens, SVGA CRTs, Monster Sound MX300s, Voodoo graphics cards, DB50XGs, my 286 from 1991, my SBPro2 from 1993, my 486 from 1994, my IBM Pentium from 2000, my Pentium II's, the Tualatin mobo/chip/RAM combo I've lost somewhere in the house and can't find for-love-nor-money-grrr!, I want all these things and many more. Even the ones I already have! which sadly, of the list above, is "only a few of them".

But in most cases the world, and time, have conspired to either remove them from my grasp permanently or, at least make the aspiration a very financially expensive one! 😀 Ah well, first world problems. (looks around at 6 surrounding machines of awesomeness in this room alone) I'll live.

Reply 866 of 907, by TechieDude

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devius wrote on 2020-09-22, 10:38:

That's interesting. These are machines you probably didn't have much (or any) contact with when they were new, and people I know that are into this hobby are usually older and had these machines growing up, so what's it like looking at these machines that are older than you?

It's actually quite fascinating, and I generally enjoy tinkering with stuff, mainly computers, but not exclusively. I like learning about stuff, and I always find something I didn't know about computers, even old ones. I also like to see first-hand-ish how far we've come since then, not to mention the awesome games that were available on them that for whatever reason don't work, or just work better/feel more authentic in their "natural habitat", even though I don't really go period-correct in my builds. Or well-made OPL2/3 music that still doesn't sound quite right on emulators. Anyway, I find it hard to justify having anything older than Socket5/7, though I still want to build a 486 or two 😉 I also like the challenge in getting them to work and repairing them if necessary. Knowing how to setup resources on a ISA add-on cards or maximising conventional memory in DOS, while not really useful nowadays, is still interesting to me.

I'm not so sure about that. At least over here it's still possible to find good deals if you search and are patient. You just need to talk to people when you see they are selling some computer parts. Some times they have more and it can be older stuff they thing is not worth mentioning in an ad. Other times there is nothing more. The "hunt" is part of the fun.

The thing is, if I had started now, I wouldn't know where to look, or even WHAT to look for. And to be frank, I'm not quite at my best shape mentally and emotionally. The current prices and the pandemic have also made this harder, considering bazaars opened for only a little bit, and closed again, not to mention jobs getting harder to find. The classifieds in my country rarely have anything particularly interesting to me. I only bought things from classifieds like 5 times, and for various reasons only one of them actually works. I'll keep in mind your advice to ask, though. Bazaars on the other hand, are loaded with all kinds of old stuff, that surprisingly more often than not is actually decent and working (or worth fixing). On Ebay only once (Pentium E5800's are dirt cheap!). The 'hunt' is part of the fun, but not so much fun if you can't even find anything close to what you're looking for, or all you find is overpriced. Imagine your first purchase being something very expensive (e.g. a Voodoo 5) and it turns out it was broken, or it wasn't even what was listed to begin with. Sure, you might be able to get a refund, but it doesn't inspire confidence... Of course, having been into this hobby for so long, I know where to look, but there always is more to know than we already do.

Reply 867 of 907, by imi

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anyone else having issues with ebay atm.?
I can't checkout on any auction, I just get greeted by an error message and try again... have tried on my phone, different browser etc. no dice.

Reply 869 of 907, by Unknown_K

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pan069 wrote on 2020-10-20, 20:49:

I "watched" an item on eBay the other day. 30 mins later the price was raised by $30. 🤔

Too many people watching it, sellers know.

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Reply 870 of 907, by debs3759

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pan069 wrote on 2020-10-20, 20:49:

I "watched" an item on eBay the other day. 30 mins later the price was raised by $30. 🤔

That's why I prefer to add things to my basket. Sellers can't see that, and if I am interested in multiple items from the same seller, they are grouped together and can be paid as a single payment.

Reply 872 of 907, by debs3759

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I'm pretty sure they can't see it, but I must admit I do get offers for things I watch that way. I think that's just how ebay works though, as I sometimes get offers for items I have only viewed as well.

Reply 875 of 907, by Big Pink

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pan069 wrote on 2020-10-21, 09:34:

Some guy on ebay is charging $80 AUD (~55 USD) for shipping an ATX I/O back plate from the states to aus. 😆

Last year I saw a US seller list a PC133 DIMM for a reasonable amount. The $232 transatlantic shipping cost not so reasonable. I'm visualising a stick of RAM sitting in first class.

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Reply 876 of 907, by cyclone3d

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The absurd shipping price is not necessarily what the seller manually set. On eBay, the shipping methods are chosen by the seller but eBay and the shippers set the shipping prices. The seller probably has no idea that those shipping prices are showing up.

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Reply 877 of 907, by schmatzler

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You can set up your own shipping prices though. Either you create a general table for the countries you want to send to or you can enter them manually when you create an auction.

Never trust the automatic process. 😀

So it doesn't hurt to ask the seller to adjust the shipping price if you really want an item.

Reply 878 of 907, by dr_st

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If they ship through eBay's Global Shipping Program, the prices are set for them, and they are very high, because eBay uses a courier service.

I routinely ask sellers from countries where I know the actual shipping via regular postal service can be much cheaper, if they are willing to ship overseas on their own, and if so - how much they want for shipping. About 1 in 3 times I found that we could agree on reasonable shipping prices this way.

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Reply 879 of 907, by imi

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I've found that the global shipping program rates have usually been cheaper on the other hand... though I'd still advise anyone to be careful of them as they like repackaging things in completely inadequate packaging to save on shipping.

I've had a US seller once ask me to double up on shipping costs after the sale, even though shipping was already reasonably high for an item that wasn't particularly big or heavy... needless to say that deal didn't go through... but I still ended up losing money on it as I had to pay currency conversion fees twice, once for payment and once for the refund... silly.