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Reply 20 of 34, by Law212

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Heres another question. When I installed and try to run X-wing. it says that I dont have enough XMS memory and so speech and digitized sounds will be turned off. It says I have no XMS .

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Reply 25 of 34, by darry

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Before doing memmaker that, you could try to adding RAM i=B000-B7FF to the device=emm386.exe command in config.sys (those are zeros, not Os). If you are not running games running monochrome(MDA/ Hercules) graphics, that will cause no issues .

Reply 26 of 34, by Law212

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darry wrote on 2020-06-16, 20:36:

Before doing memmaker that, you could try to adding RAM i=B000-B7FF to the device=emm386.exe command in config.sys (those are zeros, not Os). If you are not running games running monochrome(MDA/ Hercules) graphics, that will cause no issues .

This worked. Though now Xwing just freezes in the intro....
ugh always an issue. Im also having an issue getting the 5.25 floppy drive working, and my voodoo 3
Why cant things just work?

Reply 27 of 34, by darry

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Law212 wrote on 2020-06-19, 14:43:
This worked. Though now Xwing just freezes in the intro.... ugh always an issue. Im also having an issue getting the 5.25 floppy […]
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darry wrote on 2020-06-16, 20:36:

Before doing memmaker that, you could try to adding RAM i=B000-B7FF to the device=emm386.exe command in config.sys (those are zeros, not Os). If you are not running games running monochrome(MDA/ Hercules) graphics, that will cause no issues .

This worked. Though now Xwing just freezes in the intro....
ugh always an issue. Im also having an issue getting the 5.25 floppy drive working, and my voodoo 3
Why cant things just work?

Are you still testing without sound enabled ? If you enabled sound in X-Wing and it crashed, try running with sound disabled . If it works, you may have sound card mis-configuration (DMA or IRQ conflict?) . If you are already running without sound or the problem persists without sound, the issue obviously lies elsewhere .

EDIT: Even if you are running without sound, I would try disabling SBEINIT.EXE in autoexec.bat , just in case there is a weird software conflict there .
EDIT2: Don't take it personally, as this needs to be asked . Is your copy of X-Wing from original floppy/CD media or a legitimate online store like GOG or Steam? Please specify which as this can be significant in debugging. The other reason I ask is because illegitimately sourced copies can have problems of their own which no one here would want to debug and I am not even going into the legal aspect of it .

Reply 28 of 34, by Law212

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darry wrote on 2020-06-19, 17:20:
Are you still testing without sound enabled ? If you enabled sound in X-Wing and it crashed, try running with sound disabled . I […]
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Law212 wrote on 2020-06-19, 14:43:
This worked. Though now Xwing just freezes in the intro.... ugh always an issue. Im also having an issue getting the 5.25 floppy […]
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darry wrote on 2020-06-16, 20:36:

Before doing memmaker that, you could try to adding RAM i=B000-B7FF to the device=emm386.exe command in config.sys (those are zeros, not Os). If you are not running games running monochrome(MDA/ Hercules) graphics, that will cause no issues .

This worked. Though now Xwing just freezes in the intro....
ugh always an issue. Im also having an issue getting the 5.25 floppy drive working, and my voodoo 3
Why cant things just work?

Are you still testing without sound enabled ? If you enabled sound in X-Wing and it crashed, try running with sound disabled . If it works, you may have sound card mis-configuration (DMA or IRQ conflict?) . If you are already running without sound or the problem persists without sound, the issue obviously lies elsewhere .

EDIT: Even if you are running without sound, I would try disabling SBEINIT.EXE in autoexec.bat , just in case there is a weird software conflict there .
EDIT2: Don't take it personally, as this needs to be asked . Is your copy of X-Wing from original floppy/CD media or a legitimate online store like GOG or Steam? Please specify which as this can be significant in debugging. The other reason I ask is because illegitimately sourced copies can have problems of their own which no one here would want to debug and I am not even going into the legal aspect of it .

I was playing it with sound on. I didnt try with it off yet. I havent had much time this week to mess around with it.
My copy of Xwing is an original boxed retail version. All games I play on my old hardware is. Its the floppy disk version.

I got the USB port working again, it was a setting in the bios. So that was good to take care of, though I had another issue lately where the floppy drive no longer works. I will try to solve that issue and install the 5.25 floppy as well . I dont know why this is such a headache.

I took a break ffrom the issues and just played some Xmen children of the atom and Quake on it. Ill look at solving more issues this weekend.
Also im wondering if I should install my voodoo 3 2000 on this computer. What do you guys think?

Reply 31 of 34, by Law212

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There was a thread on this forum I saw before but cant find it now, talking about freedos. I know someone linked to the file above , but there was a whole thread on it that was very informative and I cant find it now. Can someone link to it?

Reply 32 of 34, by Joseph_Joestar

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From my experience, the floppy version of X-Wing is speed sensitive and will outright fail to produce sound on certain cards with a fast CPU. Try turning off both caches in BIOS before running the game and see if that helps.

EDIT - just noticed that you appear to be using a SBLive. I don't think its DOS driver can handle turning the caches off. You should get an ISA sound card for that build if you primarily want to play DOS games.

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Reply 33 of 34, by Law212

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2020-07-31, 03:57:

From my experience, the floppy version of X-Wing is speed sensitive and will outright fail to produce sound on certain cards with a fast CPU. Try turning off both caches in BIOS before running the game and see if that helps.

EDIT - just noticed that you appear to be using a SBLive. I don't think its DOS driver can handle turning the caches off. You should get an ISA sound card for that build if you primarily want to play DOS games.

I had the sound working fine with speech at some point. Im sure ill get it working properly again. at this point i need to set up my config and autoexec properly as none of my dos stuff works right at the moment

Reply 34 of 34, by Law212

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So ive been messing with this Pentium again. I got the 5.25 drive working again.
I installed that MS DOS starter stuff but I also installed a voodoo 3 , and now when I restart into MS DOS , the screen goes blank and the monitor shuts off.