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First post, by mwdmeyer

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Hi Guys,

Back in the day (late 2005) I purchased a cheap Radeon X800 Pro for use in my Athlon 64 AGP machine. Specifically for HL2. Great card (but very noisy!).

Anyway I recently got it out again to test and found that the specs don't match up 100% with anything that is listed as an X800 PRO.

GPUZ says it is an R430 card which doesn't match up to the PRO name. It seems like a mix of a plain X800 and a X800 PRO.

Does anyone have any ideas or could GPUZ be wrong?

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Reply 1 of 8, by Error 0x7CF

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Interesting.

Differences from X800:
X800 Pro memory clock
Apparently claimed to be an X800 Pro

Differences from X800 Pro:
110nm R430 GPU like the X800 and X800XL
X800 GPU clock speed (400 vs 475MHz)

You could probably just "over"clock the GPU to 475MHz and call it a day if you wanted. It seems unlikely we'd get to the bottom of why your card is like this.
(My guess: Palit got some lower-binned X800 GPUs to sell as x800 Pro cards and figured nobody would notice or care. It's hardly a big difference. That or they ran out of R420 dies and swapped in R430s for some cards and switched to a lower GPU clock.)

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Reply 2 of 8, by mwdmeyer

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Thanks I think you're right. I did a bit of looking into the card and old emails. It is branded as an XpertVision and it seems it is simply a X800 non-pro with PRO speed memory. The photos of similar cards online all look like normal X800s.

I'm not concerned that it doesn't match 100% with the PRO. It ran great back in the day.

I recently picked up an X850 XT and it isn't that much faster (although I was testing on a P4 2.8 so CPU is probably a bottleneck).

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Reply 3 of 8, by The Serpent Rider

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You could probably just "over"clock the GPU to 475MHz

You can't. R430 usually can be overclocked only to 450.

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Reply 6 of 8, by havli

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2021-02-07, 07:58:

You can't. R430 usually can be overclocked only to 450.

Depends on luck, I managed to run my R430 at 540 MHz, no mods or anything. https://hwbot.org/submission/2566166_havli_3d … ddr1_1514_marks

Btw - it is werid to see R430 on AGP card. There must be the Rialto bridge... and therefore more complex PCB. As far as I know R430 is native pci-e GPU.

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Reply 7 of 8, by mwdmeyer

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Thanks guys. The cooling is really noisy on this card and I'm not sure why. So I'm not going to do any overclocking at this stage.

It runs like 50% fan usage all the time.

I have an X850 XT which I assumed would be way worse (due to higher clock speed and larger 130nm process) but it is actually much much better. The fan is normally running at 14% and is super quiet! It is a dual slot cooler so I suppose that helps.

I thought maybe thermal paste and I haven't replaced since 2005 but both GPUs run at 55-60c to very similar.

The cooler must just suck!

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