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Reply 40 of 49, by bloodem

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AlessandroB wrote on 2021-06-11, 12:30:

what do you think about this?

https://www.ebay.it/itm/373516347339?hash=ite … 1YAAOSwQkNgX3bH

i already have a very nice microatx case that i use with my asrock and i want to use also for this Asus. This model have DDMA feature right? tnks

Seems like it's the smaller micro atx brother of A7V8X-X. Haven't tested it myself, but it should be fine (as long as everything fits). It doesn't have DDMA (very few chipsets do, and some of them have a broken DDMA implementation anyway), but it is very DOS sound friendly 😀. You will need to use the DSDMA TSR (that I mentioned in my previous posts) in order to emulate DDMA.
Please note that you will need two sound cards: 1 x Sound Blaster Live 5.1 or Audigy/Audigy 2 (ZS) for Windows and the Yamaha YMF724 for DOS. Although the Yamaha card is usually fine for Windows, it does have some issues on the KT400/KT600/KT880 chipsets (i.e.: Quake 2 sometimes freezing on exit and other weird things).
So the best option is to stick to good ol' Creative cards in Windows (where you can also load great soundfonts like the SC-55 soundfont), and keep the Yamaha strictly for DOS mode.

Also, you would need to change that CPU with an Athlon XP (preferably a Thoroughbred with unlocked multiplier, but a late Barton FSB333 would also work OK).

chrismeyer6 wrote on 2021-06-11, 12:32:

For all of that I'd grab it as it's a great deal.

Indeed 😀

2 x PGA132 / 5 x Socket 3 / 4 x Socket 7 / 6 x Super Socket 7 / 5 x Slot 1 / 3 x Slot A
5 x Socket 370 / 5 x Socket A / 1 x Socket 478 / 2 x Socket 754 / 3 x Socket 939 / 4 x LGA775 / 1 x LGA1155
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Reply 41 of 49, by AlessandroB

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Today unfortunately I tested the famous asrock socketA and found that it is broken. I think I'll fall back to an ss7 card with k6-2 400mhz. I don't think I have any power issues as I am not interested in games after the year 2000/2001. In addition this card has ISA, PCI, AGP slots giving me more possibilities in installing the cards.

Reply 42 of 49, by bloodem

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AlessandroB wrote on 2021-06-12, 21:29:

Today unfortunately I tested the famous asrock socketA and found that it is broken. I think I'll fall back to an ss7 card with k6-2 400mhz. I don't think I have any power issues as I am not interested in games after the year 2000/2001. In addition this card has ISA, PCI, AGP slots giving me more possibilities in installing the cards.

Although SS7 is great, even a K6-3+ (overclocked to 616 MHz, on one of the fastest boards) is too slow for many 1999/2000 games.
So a regular K6-2 400 will probably not get you very far.
Anyway, it depends on the actual game.

2 x PGA132 / 5 x Socket 3 / 4 x Socket 7 / 6 x Super Socket 7 / 5 x Slot 1 / 3 x Slot A
5 x Socket 370 / 5 x Socket A / 1 x Socket 478 / 2 x Socket 754 / 3 x Socket 939 / 4 x LGA775 / 1 x LGA1155
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Reply 43 of 49, by AlessandroB

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bloodem wrote on 2021-06-13, 07:02:
Although SS7 is great, even a K6-3+ (overclocked to 616 MHz, on one of the fastest boards) is too slow for many 1999/2000 games. […]
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AlessandroB wrote on 2021-06-12, 21:29:

Today unfortunately I tested the famous asrock socketA and found that it is broken. I think I'll fall back to an ss7 card with k6-2 400mhz. I don't think I have any power issues as I am not interested in games after the year 2000/2001. In addition this card has ISA, PCI, AGP slots giving me more possibilities in installing the cards.

Although SS7 is great, even a K6-3+ (overclocked to 616 MHz, on one of the fastest boards) is too slow for many 1999/2000 games.
So a regular K6-2 400 will probably not get you very far.
Anyway, it depends on the actual game.

The games I prefer are not the games like Quake but those like Age of Empire, I don't know if in that case the K6 400 is enough

Reply 44 of 49, by bloodem

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As far as AoE is concerned, I remember playing AoE2 just fine back in the day, on a K6-2 500.

2 x PGA132 / 5 x Socket 3 / 4 x Socket 7 / 6 x Super Socket 7 / 5 x Slot 1 / 3 x Slot A
5 x Socket 370 / 5 x Socket A / 1 x Socket 478 / 2 x Socket 754 / 3 x Socket 939 / 4 x LGA775 / 1 x LGA1155
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Reply 45 of 49, by nd22

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bloodem wrote on 2021-06-13, 08:49:

As far as AoE is concerned, I remember playing AoE2 just fine back in the day, on a K6-2 500.

With all due respect this is not true!
I have done numerous tests in AoE2 and not even a Tualatin 1400s can play this game at this settings: highest difficulty; 7 enemy AI in 4 different teams; huge map; population cap 200.

Reply 46 of 49, by Doornkaat

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nd22 wrote on 2021-06-13, 12:14:
bloodem wrote on 2021-06-13, 08:49:

As far as AoE is concerned, I remember playing AoE2 just fine back in the day, on a K6-2 500.

With all due respect this is not true!
I have done numerous tests in AoE2 and not even a Tualatin 1400s can play this game at this settings: highest difficulty; 7 enemy AI in 4 different teams; huge map; population cap 200.

You always knew shit was about to go down when the game suddenly lagged. 😄

Reply 48 of 49, by nd22

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Doornkaat wrote on 2021-06-13, 13:00:

You always knew shit was about to go down when the game suddenly lagged. 😄

Exactly 😀) ! Played recently and during attacks if the CPU was not up to it it lagged horribly! Resolution has nothing to do with it - it simply needs raw horsepower to calculate all units movements and attacks.

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Reply 49 of 49, by bloodem

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nd22 wrote on 2021-06-13, 12:14:
bloodem wrote on 2021-06-13, 08:49:

As far as AoE is concerned, I remember playing AoE2 just fine back in the day, on a K6-2 500.

With all due respect this is not true!
I have done numerous tests in AoE2 and not even a Tualatin 1400s can play this game at this settings: highest difficulty; 7 enemy AI in 4 different teams; huge map; population cap 200.

This is not my experience at all. But, then again, I was far from an avid AoE2 player 😀. I only played the normal campaign missions (and never finished them, IIRC).
The situation you are describing is pretty extreme, and I think it would’ve tanked performance on most RTS games of the time. I remember that Starcraft Brood War also generally ran very well on my K6-2 500, but it would definitely struggle in a situation as the one you described 😀.

2 x PGA132 / 5 x Socket 3 / 4 x Socket 7 / 6 x Super Socket 7 / 5 x Slot 1 / 3 x Slot A
5 x Socket 370 / 5 x Socket A / 1 x Socket 478 / 2 x Socket 754 / 3 x Socket 939 / 4 x LGA775 / 1 x LGA1155
Current rig: Ryzen 5 3600X
Backup rig: Core i7 7700k