VOGONS


First post, by Autumn Able

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Currently putting together a rather nice Baby AT system using a PC Partner MVP3BS7p954 motherboard. Unfortunately, I've come across a bit of a dilemma. While the motherboard has a 5-pin header for a PS/2 mouse port, I can't seem to find the correct adapter for it anywhere. The closest I've seen is one from Pan Pacific (pictured below), but I have no way of telling if it's even wired correctly as PS/2 header pinouts were never really standardized. I really don't want to have to get another card and eat up what few PCI slots I have left.

Attachments

Reply 2 of 13, by BitWrangler

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++

See those little gold bits in the connector? Those are the latching tabs of the contacts, you press those with a jewelers screwdriver, pull the contacts out of the shell and arrange them however you want.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 4 of 13, by Joseph_Joestar

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

You can also use jumper cables such as these to hook up the connector to the pins on the motherboard, one by one.

This is assuming you know the pinout for the motherboard and for the connector on the bracket as well. The latter can easily be determined using a multimeter via continuity testing.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi

Reply 5 of 13, by Autumn Able

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

About the one I linked above, are there any good sources for them anymore? The sites I did find them on want to charge insane shipping prices ($10-$25) for something that can easily ship in a bubble mailer.

Reply 6 of 13, by Caluser2000

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

My spares bin..😉

There's a glitch in the matrix.
A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 7 of 13, by Joseph_Joestar

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
Autumn Able wrote on 2021-07-12, 05:46:

About the one I linked above, are there any good sources for them anymore? The sites I did find them on want to charge insane shipping prices ($10-$25) for something that can easily ship in a bubble mailer.

You can usually find those cables in places that sell Raspberry Pi and Arduino accessories.

I buy them locally, but I posted the Amazon link since it's more convenient for most people.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi

Reply 9 of 13, by Joseph_Joestar

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
Autumn Able wrote on 2021-07-12, 07:10:

Did manage to find one for under $10 shipped within the US. Just need to double check the pinouts when I actually get it in.

This video made by a fellow Vogons user might be helpful.

Above all else, be sure to properly match the bracket's connections to the corresponding motherboard pins, otherwise you may risk damaging the board.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi

Reply 11 of 13, by Joseph_Joestar

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
Ydee wrote on 2021-07-12, 10:26:

If I understand correctly, You need connect wire from bracket to board so:

The layout of the female PS2 connector (where you plug in the mouse) is always the same. But the connector which goes from the bracket to the motherboard can have different layouts even if it looks the same visually.

That's why it's recommended to do continuity testing on the bracket (as shown in the video above) in order to correctly identify which wire carries which signal, before attempting to hook it up to the motherboard.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi

Reply 12 of 13, by canthearu

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

I always do continuality testing on the bracket and then rearrange pins in the header to make these bloody things work. And if you are stuck spending $10-$20 on delivery, order 3 or 4 of them to make it worthwhile.

And yes, if you are not careful, you could cook things. I almost cooked one of my PS/2 optical mice this way .... something got nice and hot and started to smell like electronics about to die. I suspect that one of the chips had reversed voltage and the ESD protection diodes inside the chip were transmitting power and heating up one of the ICs, as fixing it properly resulted in the mouse working correctly as it should, despite it's near death experience.

Reply 13 of 13, by Ydee

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2021-07-12, 10:31:
Ydee wrote on 2021-07-12, 10:26:

If I understand correctly, You need connect wire from bracket to board so:

But the connector which goes from the bracket to the motherboard can have different layouts even if it looks the same visually.

Yes, I know - that's why I marked the pins from the board and from You has a usefull link to the video, how to pull contacts from the connector, all that's left is to check them and assemble them correctly in the connector to the board, that´s all.