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First post, by assortedkingdede

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I got a PCI Realtek RTL8139D windows won't detect the card. Installing drivers does nothing. The card seems to power up but shows no activity (The LED's on it are lit). What should I do? Thanks!

Reply 3 of 11, by dionb

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How was issue solved? And what motherboard are you trying to install it on?

One thing to be aware of is that most RTL8139C and D cards require PCI 2.2 and 3.3V, which is not available on many older (BX-era and before) boards.

Reply 4 of 11, by assortedkingdede

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dionb wrote on 2022-12-01, 07:48:

How was issue solved? And what motherboard are you trying to install it on?

One thing to be aware of is that most RTL8139C and D cards require PCI 2.2 and 3.3V, which is not available on many older (BX-era and before) boards.

Tried a different driver and repositioned the card as well as rebooting the computer. I was using a P6BAP-A+ motherboard.

Reply 5 of 11, by dionb

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assortedkingdede wrote on 2022-12-02, 02:31:
dionb wrote on 2022-12-01, 07:48:

How was issue solved? And what motherboard are you trying to install it on?

One thing to be aware of is that most RTL8139C and D cards require PCI 2.2 and 3.3V, which is not available on many older (BX-era and before) boards.

Tried a different driver and repositioned the card as well as rebooting the computer. I was using a P6BAP-A+ motherboard.

So a Via ApolloPro133 chipset - Via's first PCI 2.2 chipset. So that's not the issue.

Reply 6 of 11, by dormcat

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dionb wrote on 2022-12-01, 07:48:

One thing to be aware of is that most RTL8139C and D cards require PCI 2.2 and 3.3V, which is not available on many older (BX-era and before) boards.

Didn't know that. I've got 8139 cards on 430FX and TX motherboards and they work fine even under Windows 3.1.

Reply 7 of 11, by majestyk

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assortedkingdede wrote on 2022-12-01, 03:53:

Issue solved but now windows wants to tell me on startup that I am missing a bunch of .vxd files that I don't need. How do I get rid of this? Thanks!

If this is WIN98 there are a lot of howtos for that online. You have to extract the missing files from CD and copy them into the system folder.

Reply 8 of 11, by Gmlb256

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assortedkingdede wrote on 2022-12-01, 03:53:

Issue solved but now windows wants to tell me on startup that I am missing a bunch of .vxd files that I don't need. How do I get rid of this? Thanks!

This sometimes happens when installing the drivers for the NIC. Reinstalling "Client for Microsoft Network" usually fixes that.

dionb wrote on 2022-12-01, 07:48:

One thing to be aware of is that most RTL8139C and D cards require PCI 2.2 and 3.3V, which is not available on many older (BX-era and before) boards.

Interesting, I used one of these Realtek NIC on a motherboard with 440ZX chipset and it worked fine.

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Reply 9 of 11, by drosse1meyer

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Gmlb256 wrote on 2022-12-02, 15:05:
This sometimes happens when installing the drivers for the NIC. Reinstalling "Client for Microsoft Network" feature usually fixe […]
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assortedkingdede wrote on 2022-12-01, 03:53:

Issue solved but now windows wants to tell me on startup that I am missing a bunch of .vxd files that I don't need. How do I get rid of this? Thanks!

This sometimes happens when installing the drivers for the NIC. Reinstalling "Client for Microsoft Network" feature usually fixes that.

dionb wrote on 2022-12-01, 07:48:

One thing to be aware of is that most RTL8139C and D cards require PCI 2.2 and 3.3V, which is not available on many older (BX-era and before) boards.

Interesting, I used one of these Realtek NIC on a motherboard with 440ZX chipset and it worked fine.

Yea windows *should* prompt for the install disk when installing the nic which will put the proper files in place. I always copy the install discs cabs to a local folder because this gets way too annoying in Win9x.

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Reply 10 of 11, by dionb

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dormcat wrote on 2022-12-02, 14:55:

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Didn't know that. I've got 8139 cards on 430FX and TX motherboards and they work fine even under Windows 3.1.

Sure it wasn't RTL8139B? They always work with 5V-only. It's entirely possible that the C and D cards are made to work with only 5V (in fact, PCI spec says they must be backwards compatible), but they tend to be on cheap PCBs that don't support htat.

Reply 11 of 11, by dormcat

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dionb wrote on 2022-12-02, 19:44:

Sure it wasn't RTL8139B? They always work with 5V-only. It's entirely possible that the C and D cards are made to work with only 5V (in fact, PCI spec says they must be backwards compatible), but they tend to be on cheap PCBs that don't support htat.

Just confirmed: it's RTL8139C on Asus TXP4:

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Couldn't find any details on PCI slots of TXP4, though. IIRC another NIC of the same model is on a Pentium 120 build (430FX chipset) and worked fine as well, but the machine is not with me at this moment.