97 degrees is very hot. Are you sure this is normal?

I have a similar rig, but using the UD5 board, EVGA GTX 550 ti, 6 GB DDR3-1333 and Core i7-920. It is rock solid stable in both Windows XP and Windows 7 64-bit. I also am using the latest Nvidia drivers in both cases.

ETA: The manual says this board (both rev 1.0 and 2.0) only supports DDR3 2200/1333/1066/800 and you are using 1600. Could this be a problem?

My rig.
Asus P5N-D Rev 1.02G
Intel Xeon x3320
2x 2GB DDR2 800Mhz
Corsair RM750i
RAID 0 -(onbaord controller and spinning rust)
2x ASUS GTX590
Driver version 368.22

I did have some trouble when running the PC up, I've got the following notes but can't remember if I ever found the cause.
368.81 & 368.69, Works but get errors on startup
368.22 & below, Sometimes blue screens on first boot, If this happens uninstall and install next previous version eg 310.70
3.10.70, No dependencies

97 is a bit too much. Most likely will require IHS scalping. Also NV4_disp is a bad sign, which may indicate that one of GPUs is dying (most likely slave GPU). You need to retest system with another GPU which is proven to work fine.

Errius wrote:

The manual says this board (both rev 1.0 and 2.0) only supports DDR3 2200/1333/1066/800 and you are using 1600

Board doesn't care. All multipliers are provided by CPU anyway.

Errius wrote on 2022-12-06, 08:36:

97 degrees is very hot. Are you sure this is normal?

I have a similar rig, but using the UD5 board, EVGA GTX 550 ti, 6 GB DDR3-1333 and Core i7-920. It is rock solid stable in both Windows XP and Windows 7 64-bit. I also am using the latest Nvidia drivers in both cases.

ETA: The manual says this board (both rev 1.0 and 2.0) only supports DDR3 2200/1333/1066/800 and you are using 1600. Could this be a problem?

according google its normal since its basically 2 580s crammed on to a single board. this is running furmark witch is pretty much unrealistic load i ran it for a full hour.

something else i noticed if i try to go in to the nividia control panel and shut off Sli the control panel crashes every time and sli is on by default so i seemingly have no way to shut off sli witch could be why 3rd mark 06 is crashing i mean 06 was there even sli back then?

on the RAM idk i turn on xmp profile 1 and it sets it to 1600 mhz i can ran memtest no errors and prime 95 fills up the ram and it don't cause any crashes.

i'm just thinking this video driver is not stable.

or that sli for these cards under xp isn't the greatest. when googling i found that they disabled sli support for the next gen cards 680 and 690 and it says they disabled 4 and 3 way sli for the 500 series under xp so technically 2 way with this card should work.

i have a single 580 i guess i could toss that in and see how it works.

OK I see. I ran two 550 ti's in SLI for years but this was with Windows 7. I never tried with XP.

Is this system stable in Windows Vista or Windows 7? It would be good if we could rule out hardware failure.

SLI works fine on GTX590 in XP environment.

Errius wrote on 2022-12-06, 19:53:

OK I see. I ran two 550 ti's in SLI for years but this was with Windows 7. I never tried with XP.

Is this system stable in Windows Vista or Windows 7? It would be good if we could rule out hardware failure.

well i can seemly stress test the gpu in furmak if i can get furmark to lunch sometimes it refuses to lunch. but once its running i can stress test for an hour and nothing crashes. and i can stress out the cpu and ram with prime 95 i ran that for an hour error free.

so the hardware it self i don't think is bad but idk.

the only issue is when i go in the nvidia control panel and try to shut off sli the control panel just crashes and if go back in it never disabled it.

i guess maybe the next 2 things i need to try is maybe go with an older version of the drivers or swap out the 590 for a 580 and see if that clears things up.

Update

So i started with driver
368.81 the last release for xp this one had 2 issues. 1 when went in the nvidia control panel and tired to change sli settings it would crash. running 3d mark i could get though a couple test but it would lock up.
365.10 went back a few version to this one. on this driver the control panel worked i could turn off or on sli however 3d mark would instantly crash.
359.00 went back several more version this one seems to work i can change the sli settings and 3d mark 06 gets all the way though

score is 31349 3d marks not really sure if thats is good or bad looking at the score chart the closest one i can find for a 590sli set up scores 45000 however the cpu on that rig is a 7700k a much newer cpu so i assume mine is ok?

second i got some faster ram KHX2400C11D3K4/8G its a kingston kit of ram 4 2 gb sticks 2400mhz. i installed 3 of the sticks for triple channel mode since having the 4 stick will not benefit anything.

now the board don't officially support 2400 mhz. if i turn on xmp profile 1 it sets the ram to some crazy speed of 6069 mhz. if i set profile 2 it sets the ram to 2133mhz.

i've manually set the following . ram multiplier to 18 witch sets it to 2400mhz. i manually set the timings with the numbers from cpuz that it says are required for 2400mhz and i manually set the voltage i had to set it to 1.66v. 1.65v is not an option it lets me me manually set for some reason although when u set it to profile 2 it seems to be able to set it to 1.65 so not sure what the deal is with that.

with these settings i can ran memtest 86 error free and 3d mark passes as well.

is there any other settings i should tweak or are these good enough?

chinny22 wrote on 2022-12-06, 11:10:

368.81 & 368.69, Works but get errors on startup

This is the Nvidia program that sits in the notification area. It's broken for some reason. You can disable it from loading using MSConfig.

Errius wrote on 2022-12-08, 21:49:

chinny22 wrote on 2022-12-06, 11:10:

368.81 & 368.69, Works but get errors on startup

This is the Nvidia program that sits in the notification area. It's broken for some reason. You can disable it from loading using MSConfig.

older versions seem to work fine.

Seems like with driver version 359.00 i can go nuts and stress this thing to max and everything works.

i ran 10 passes of 3d mark 06. i ran pcmark 05. 1 hour with prime95 and furmark no blue screens or crashes.

so it would seem as long as u don't use any of the last few versions of the drivers then everything is stable.

did anyone have any suggestions on ram settings in the bios although everything seems stable just not 100% sure if there was anything i needed to set other then what i already did normally i just have to turn xmp on and it does everything. but i guess since this board was made before 2400 mhz ram came around i have to do it manually but seems to work.

I found a GTX 590 review with some temperature tests:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/4239/nvidias-g … le-card-king/16

88C in Crysis... 92C after overclocking. 🔥

I don't know if Furmark would be worse or not, but yeah, these are some toasty cards.

Also, apparently it has a 365 Watt TDP. 🤯

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2022-12-09, 01:27:

I found a GTX 590 review with some temperature tests: https://www.anandtech.com/show/4239/nvidias-g … le-card-king/16 […]
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I found a GTX 590 review with some temperature tests:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/4239/nvidias-g … le-card-king/16

88C in Crysis... 92C after overclocking. 🔥

I don't know if Furmark would be worse or not, but yeah, these are some toasty cards.

Also, apparently it has a 365 Watt TDP. 🤯

wouldn't surprise me i know the previous gen 480s were considered some of the hottest gpus ever made.

fur mark should def be worst then an actual game since its keeping the usage pegged at 100% none stop. were a normal game the usage should go up and down.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2022-12-09, 01:27:

I don't know if Furmark would be worse or not, but yeah, these are some toasty cards.

No. GTX 590 has TDP limiter via shunt resistor. It will throttle hard in FurMark. Like I said, all these old Fermi cards require scalping of internal heatspreaders, which have ages old crusty thermal paste underneath.

Although, you can totally destroy your GTX 590 with specific driver version which ignores TDP protection.

aaron158 wrote on 2022-12-09, 03:17:

fur mark should def be worst then an actual game since its keeping the usage pegged at 100% none stop. were a normal game the usage should go up and down.

FurMark acts like a power virus on GTX 480 and can trip OCP protection. Doesn't work that way on GTX 590, because see above.

Errius wrote on 2022-12-06, 08:36:

97 degrees is very hot. Are you sure this is normal?

I have a similar rig, but using the UD5 board, EVGA GTX 550 ti, 6 GB DDR3-1333 and Core i7-920. It is rock solid stable in both Windows XP and Windows 7 64-bit. I also am using the latest Nvidia drivers in both cases.

ETA: The manual says this board (both rev 1.0 and 2.0) only supports DDR3 2200/1333/1066/800 and you are using 1600. Could this be a problem?

I had 2x 590s at one time and I think I remember these crazy high temps. Now rocking a 3070 Ti in my main rig, boy those 590s were cool though.

As an aside, which version of the UD7 is this? Version 1.0 is actually better (more robust for overclocking) than 2.0. When Gigabyte released the UD9 they went back and gimped the UD7 so it wouldn't compete with the more expensive board. This was controversial at the time. (Some people described the 2.0 as a "UD5 in disguise" because of this.)

UD5 1.0 has doubled 6 phases. UD7 2.0 and UD5 2.0, while simplified compared to UD7 1.0 and UD9, still have 16 phase VRM for CPU, which is a lot for regular 4Ghz overclock.

aaron158 wrote on 2022-12-05, 23:29:

Doing a crazy over kill xp build. […]
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Doing a crazy over kill xp build.

GPU EVGA GTX590

furmark is weird sometime i can lunch it and run it for as long as i want. but sometime it refuses to lunch gives a Vbasic error.

when i can get furmark to lunch like i said i can run it gpu hits 97 c witch from googling says is normal for max load.

Never EVER test a GTX 590 with Furmark. It can kill your card outright (as mentioned previously).
Use Unigine Heaven or 3DMark for stability testing and work from there.
I highly recommend testing GTX 590 stability under DX11 capable versions and in Win7/Win10 instead of XP.

As for OC stability, lock QPI to 4800-6400 speed (lower = better), and up DRAM(?)/VTT voltage to 1.3-1.4V. 3600MHz on NB Freq. and 2400MHz DRAM speed - isn't easy to stabilise.
nv driver may Bsod from unstable memory (system/CPU RAM), or IMC.

Errius wrote on 2022-12-09, 08:21:

As an aside, which version of the UD7 is this? Version 1.0 is actually better (more robust for overclocking) than 2.0. When Gigabyte released the UD9 they went back and gimped the UD7 so it wouldn't compete with the more expensive board. This was controversial at the time. (Some people described the 2.0 as a "UD5 in disguise" because of this.)

its a v1.0. it still has the water cooling thing and the huge air cooling thing on the North bridge still attached most of these seemed to have gotten tossed out. i removed all the heat sinks and re pasted. it was all dry and crusty flaked off. with the new paste the motherboard never goes past 50. cpu hits about 60.

about the only sucky thing is to get those crazy fast raid 0 speeds u need a raid card in this case the m5014 is what i got as there quite cheap. but they make the boot speeds slow af even with the latest firmware its a slow process. once the system is booted its fast as hell for a windows xp system. i wonder if anyone knows of a raid card that has a quicker start up time and don't cost a fortune but is old enough to support windows xp?

its a shame someone couldn't make an 8 or 16x nvme drive that could fully saturate the pci-e bus of one of these old machines and that had some kind of built in bios that could make it possible to boot with them on these old systems.