I won this set not long ago for 620 SEK = 55 euro (+ 8 euro shipping cost)

In smaller bana... potato monarchies good deals can still be made.

Minutemanqvs wrote on 2023-05-01, 13:18:

You don't need the LG1366, but if it's really the last computer you are going to add to your collection it may be acceptable. That's what we always say.

Wait there is a last computer?

That's a ridiculously low price for that board!

I purchased mine new in 2010, and it cost a great deal more!

I still have the system (This is it's current configuration)

But I may de-mod it (remove the TITAN X) and place the Corsair Dominator GT memory as well at the ASUS ARES back into the machine, as they're period specific! (Huge downgrade though! 😀 )

Why are some suggesting the W3690 over the X5690? The X5690 can be had for around $20-$30 here in the USA.

I personally went to X79 after my i7-920 died but did put together a few systems for other people using that series of XEON and also had a server with a couple ES X5675.

I do have a few X5690 CPUs now and plan on putting together an X58 setup at some point.

Nobody wants "server" CPUs, it's a hassle to find ATX mainboards and coolers compared to the more standard options...I have about 15 of them just randomly lying around and nobody wants them. One day the'll just finish at the recycler.

I am also planning to set up a high end windows XP machine with period correct parts.
I got an Asus Rampage Extreme , i7-990x and Corsair Dominator GT 3x2Gb 2000mhz sticks for cheap but I am not sure yet which GPU I should pick for this build.

cyclone3d wrote on 2023-05-01, 14:39:

Why are some suggesting the W3690 over the X5690? The X5690 can be had for around $20-$30 here in the USA.

Unlocked multiplier and better memory dividers. Like I said, overclocking FSB after certain point will screw up S3 sleep.

frankmonk wrote on 2023-05-01, 15:34:

I am also planning to set up a high end windows XP machine with period correct parts.
I got an Asus Rampage Extreme , i7-990x and Corsair Dominator GT 3x2Gb 2000mhz sticks for cheap but I am not sure yet which GPU I should pick for this build.

The ATI Radion HD 5970 was the king at the time when this board was released, until the GTX 590 dethroned it! (The ASUS ARES being a variant of the HD 5970, or more accurately an HD 5870 x2 with 2GB of frame buffer per GPU)

HD 5970's are generally cheap at this point and they are period correct to this board and CPU.

Normal 5970 - yeah, cheap, but 1Gb VRAM. Might as well grab 6990.

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2023-05-01, 15:43:

Normal 5970 - yeah, cheap, but 1Gb VRAM. Might as well grab 6990.

Agreed, but the second generation i7 was out when the HD 6990 was released, if my memory serves me correctly!

If you want the best frequency/performance/voltage/watt with s1366 rigs you end up at the 21x multiplier in most cases anyhow.

21x215 is usually doable at a much lower voltage than any other multi/bus combo for 4.5 GHz. Good boards will be 3d stable up to 220 - 222 BCLK without resorting to slow mode which often makes multipliers greater than 21x lackluster other than with great chips. Not so good boards are still able to do 215+ BCLK with decent CPUs.

19x seems often to be the multiplier that takes the least voltage/frequency with Gulftown/Westmare but you run out of BCLK...

The X5670 and X5675 are also from the top bin.

I am nostalgic for X58/920 because that was my rig for most of the last decade. I recently built such a system for that reason.

It has four operating systems (XP / W7 32-bit / W7 64-bit / W10), 16 GiB RAM and 2x GeForce GTX 550ti SLI

That's X58 right?
I had one dual socket SuperMicro board but never used it so I donated the board/CPU/RAM to a friend who built it up with some X56xx chips and a bunch of ram, I think he uses it primarily for handbrake rips. They are a cool platform, but no real need to own one these days. Unless you just want to. And if so, then that's cool too!

The triple channel ram can be a bonus and some boards with the right chips OC like mad. That's about it AFAIK. Good boards can be hard to find and pricey, you can always go for one of those AliExpress second market models though. Of course YMMV.

The dual socket version of the X58 is the 5500/5520

kolderman wrote on 2023-04-30, 22:39:

I don't think you need anything later than a Core 2 Duo. That will take you well up to 2006 games, after that, from 2007 on-wards, pretty much every game is widescreen, made for and will run fine on a modern PC.

i agree, in fact most of the later 775 systems are more than enough for windows 7 at least as well as mainstream linux etc

add in that most 'xp era' games also run fine on windows 7 with often only modest tinkering (usually none if obtained via gog/steam)

XP mainstream support ended in 2009 (extended to 2014 for sp3), Vista was out from 2007 and LGA1366 in 2008

it would have been less common by 2008 to see new PCs being sold in mainstream outlets with XP

nevertheless it can be fun though not sure i'd put XP with any cpu with more than 2 cores though, like having a V8 and only using half the pistons

gerry wrote on 2023-05-01, 18:58:

i agree, in fact most of the later 775 systems are more than enough for windows 7 at least as well as mainstream linux etc […]
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kolderman wrote on 2023-04-30, 22:39:

I don't think you need anything later than a Core 2 Duo. That will take you well up to 2006 games, after that, from 2007 on-wards, pretty much every game is widescreen, made for and will run fine on a modern PC.

i agree, in fact most of the later 775 systems are more than enough for windows 7 at least as well as mainstream linux etc

add in that most 'xp era' games also run fine on windows 7 with often only modest tinkering (usually none if obtained via gog/steam)

XP mainstream support ended in 2009 (extended to 2014 for sp3), Vista was out from 2007 and LGA1366 in 2008

it would have been less common by 2008 to see new PCs being sold in mainstream outlets with XP

nevertheless it can be fun though not sure i'd put XP with any cpu with more than 2 cores though, like having a V8 and only using half the pistons

XP 32bit supports more than 2 cores, IIRC its 32 logical cores with a max of 2 physical CPUs for XP Pro, XP64 its 64 logical cores and 2 CPUs.

So im not sure why you wouldn't run XP on a 6 core CPU, its more than up to the task, that said Win7 is better overall if you want DX10.

Yes don't mix up sockets and cores. Workstation editions of Windows support two sockets going back to (I think) NT.

(I ran into this limitation by accident. I only have one machine with 4 sockets. I first put XP on it and couldn't understand why it saw only two processors. It's currently running Windows 2000 Server)

TrashPanda wrote on 2023-05-01, 12:02:

slap a pair of GTX 580ti cards on it and turn it into a nice late XP gaming box.

Maybe a typo or oversight on your part, but I don't believe there ever was a Ti version of the GTX 580.

That said, I have a matched trio of EVGA GTX 580s on the way for my 1155 build, so I could do 3x SLI, but I'm only going to use 2 and put the third one on the shelf for a backup. Maybe I'll use all 3 to benchmark VS just using 2 though, just to get the numbers.

Minutemanqvs wrote on 2023-05-01, 14:59:

Nobody wants "server" CPUs, it's a hassle to find ATX mainboards and coolers compared to the more standard options...I have about 15 of them just randomly lying around and nobody wants them. One day the'll just finish at the recycler.

That's really funny to me, because unless I'm mistaken, the server variety of CPUs are generally better binned and more reliable, all other specs being identical. They just don't have the recognizable model printed on them.

gerry wrote on 2023-05-01, 18:58:

XP mainstream support ended in 2009 (extended to 2014 for sp3), Vista was out from 2007 and LGA1366 in 2008

it would have been less common by 2008 to see new PCs being sold in mainstream outlets with XP

That's true for new PCs in that time, however there were many like myself who skipped the Vista OS entirely due to the myriad of issues it was known for and it developed a pretty terrible reputation, so I ran XP all the way until Windows 7 was released. I never installed Vista on any of my PCs. For me, a 1366 system is definitely synonymous with a late XP system. But if I build one now, I will dual boot XP and 7.

Brawndo wrote on 2023-05-01, 23:34:

Maybe a typo or oversight on your part, but I don't believe there ever was a Ti version of the GTX 580. […]
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TrashPanda wrote on 2023-05-01, 12:02:

slap a pair of GTX 580ti cards on it and turn it into a nice late XP gaming box.

Maybe a typo or oversight on your part, but I don't believe there ever was a Ti version of the GTX 580.

That said, I have a matched trio of EVGA GTX 580s on the way for my 1155 build, so I could do 3x SLI, but I'm only going to use 2 and put the third one on the shelf for a backup. Maybe I'll use all 3 to benchmark VS just using 2 though, just to get the numbers.

Minutemanqvs wrote on 2023-05-01, 14:59:

Nobody wants "server" CPUs, it's a hassle to find ATX mainboards and coolers compared to the more standard options...I have about 15 of them just randomly lying around and nobody wants them. One day the'll just finish at the recycler.

That's really funny to me, because unless I'm mistaken, the server variety of CPUs are generally better binned and more reliable, all other specs being identical. They just don't have the recognizable model printed on them.

Yup typo, not sure why people consider server CPUs bad, the 1366 variants were identical for the most par to their desktop counterparts, the X5675 and X5650 were some of the best binned parts of the 1366 server CPUs. The other advantage of the server CPUs is ECC support which can be useful even in a desktop environment.

Minutemanqvs wrote on 2023-05-01, 14:59:

Nobody wants "server" CPUs, it's a hassle to find ATX mainboards and coolers compared to the more standard options...I have about 15 of them just randomly lying around and nobody wants them. One day the'll just finish at the recycler.

The LGA1366 "server" CPUs work fine in any regular LGA1366 motherboard.

Overclocking works fine as well.

The same goes for LGA2011 (single socket are unlocked)