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First post, by Nemo1985

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I recently bought a Pioneer DR-704S:

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but when I connected it to the computer it was identified as a DR-A14S, I searched for this model drive and it proved to be a not so reliable more recent Pioneer drive rated as 36x.

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So I took off the front panel and:

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Two buttons ah? It really seems like this one!
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So I took the cover with the label off, inside it was a mess, it was full of dust and hair, I cleaned it as much as I could (due to the slot in mechanism the drive inside is less accessible), and then gave it a try with nero cd speed:

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Anything I can do to improve the performance? Clearly something is wrong with this drive, I also tried to find an updated firmware but without luck. When I cleaned it I also used a cotton swab with ipa to clean the lens.
Also Nero CD Info is unable to read the true speed of this drive, it asks for a cd to make the chek but when I put one in it says it can't read it.

Reply 1 of 4, by Jo22

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This drive seems very old, as if it's from the 90s. I'm more familiar with the DVD models, also.
Those were popular in the RPC-1 "scene" of firmware modders.

Could well be possible that the firmware has no support for determining/setting drive speed.
I had no luck with a DVD version, either.

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Reply 2 of 4, by Nemo1985

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Jo22 wrote on 2023-05-13, 05:04:
This drive seems very old, as if it's from the 90s. I'm more familiar with the DVD models, also. Those were popular in the RPC-1 […]
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This drive seems very old, as if it's from the 90s. I'm more familiar with the DVD models, also.
Those were popular in the RPC-1 "scene" of firmware modders.

Could well be possible that the firmware has no support for determining/setting drive speed.
I had no luck with a DVD version, either.

I see, yes it's very old, I had the very same model 24x in scsi format instead of ide.
I'm more concerned about the lack of writing speed, if it's a 24x with the wrong firmware (I doubt) it's slow, if it's a 36x it's even slower!

Reply 3 of 4, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Not really deceitful tho...the DR-A14S (Pioneer branded) & the DR-704S (OEM) are the same base units but with different bezels, so firmware may be shared also - they even have the same (DR-AI4S headed) manual (which also covers the DR-714S)

Reply 4 of 4, by Nemo1985

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PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2023-05-13, 10:09:

Not really deceitful tho...the DR-A14S (Pioneer branded) & the DR-704S (OEM) are the same base units but with different bezels, so firmware may be shared also - they even have the same (DR-AI4S headed) manual (which also covers the DR-714S)

So it's a 36x? Why it doesn't read a full disc faster than 17x then?
The weird behaviour is clearly evident also from the p-cav guess of nero cd speed.
After cleaning the inside with compressed air, clear the laser with a cotton swab and ipa I wouldn't know what else to do.
I also tried a 700mb cd-r disk the speed is the same, apparently the laser is particulary sensitive (or weak) since during the reading it slowed down 3 times.