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Reply 440 of 467, by matrox

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my 2pack netburst team, 775 and 478, pentium 4 northwood and cedar mill, waiting for my 423 willamette board.

Mark: Friday, February 16, 2024

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Reply 441 of 467, by dr_st

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matrox wrote on 2024-02-17, 06:33:

my 2pack netburst team, 775 and 478, pentium 4 northwood and cedar mill, waiting for my 423 willamette board.

I see someone has a preference for uATX. 😀 Is the Willamette board going to be the same form factor?

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Reply 442 of 467, by Hoping

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matrox wrote on 2024-02-17, 06:33:

my 2pack netburst team, 775 and 478, pentium 4 northwood and cedar mill, waiting for my 423 willamette board.

Mark: Friday, February 16, 2024

Hopefully that motherboard is with SDRAM, reviewing the different scores on the first page, although they are not updated, I am very curious about the results of another Willamette with SDRAM, the RAMBUS memory seems to not show the great theoretical advantage in the results.
I would like to see more FX series graphics cards that could have been used in a 423 at the time, those results would be interesting I think.
I have a couple of FX series cards, a 5700ve and a 5600, but I can't find them.

Reply 443 of 467, by supercordo

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Hoping wrote on 2024-02-21, 16:44:
Hopefully that motherboard is with SDRAM, reviewing the different scores on the first page, although they are not updated, I am […]
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matrox wrote on 2024-02-17, 06:33:

my 2pack netburst team, 775 and 478, pentium 4 northwood and cedar mill, waiting for my 423 willamette board.

Mark: Friday, February 16, 2024

Hopefully that motherboard is with SDRAM, reviewing the different scores on the first page, although they are not updated, I am very curious about the results of another Willamette with SDRAM, the RAMBUS memory seems to not show the great theoretical advantage in the results.
I would like to see more FX series graphics cards that could have been used in a 423 at the time, those results would be interesting I think.
I have a couple of FX series cards, a 5700ve and a 5600, but I can't find them.

Scores are updated.

Reply 444 of 467, by Hoping

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Were 423 motherboards with SDRAM so unusual? I thought that motherboards with RAMBUS would be even less common and 423 motherboards with DDR would be very rare.
It will depend on the area of ​​the world where you live, like so many other things I imagine. Here RAMBUS was exceptionally expensive.

Reply 445 of 467, by H3nrik V!

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Hoping wrote on 2024-02-21, 21:45:

Were 423 motherboards with SDRAM so unusual? I thought that motherboards with RAMBUS would be even less common and 423 motherboards with DDR would be very rare.
It will depend on the area of ​​the world where you live, like so many other things I imagine. Here RAMBUS was exceptionally expensive.

I'm kinda sure that DDR didn't come around for Netburst before s423 was long phased out ... Something about Intel was obligated by contract for a number of years not to make chipsets for p4 using anything but RDRAM and SDRAM, the latter being starved for bandwidth making the Netburst architecture stumble ...

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 446 of 467, by matrox

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dr_st wrote on 2024-02-17, 09:41:
matrox wrote on 2024-02-17, 06:33:

my 2pack netburst team, 775 and 478, pentium 4 northwood and cedar mill, waiting for my 423 willamette board.

I see someone has a preference for uATX. 😀 Is the Willamette board going to be the same form factor?

no 423 mobo yet, i could not get it, but got a brand new gtx 460 instead, that card is ok for my cedar mill benchmark, but a little bit an overkill for a pentium 4 cpu.

its hard to get 423 boards today, they are rare and they are from OEM manufacturers most of the time, last time i saw a 423 board was in 2003, an ECS pink color from a clone pc manufacturer.

im not really picky about form factors, my two netburst boards i have, I got them from friends real cheap, pentium 4 boards are very precious assets, you dont know when youre gonna need an Up and running windows nt 4.0 again.

i keep searching for my 423 board, i want my intel pentium 4 consumer grade collection 423-478-775 complete before the end of the year.

Mark: Thursday, February 22, 2024

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Reply 447 of 467, by pete8475

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Apologies if i've already posted in this thread about the P4 I use.

There's some pics of the original build here - P4 3.06 / RD-RAM / FX Graphics But I have since changed the case, storage and operating system.

My P4 retro gaming pc is based on an Intel motherboard and so sadly has no overclocking options.

Specs:
Intel Pentium 4 3.06
Intel D850EMV2
512MB PC1066 RD-RAM (2x256MB Samsung modules)
Quadro FX3000 256MB
SB Audigy
Windows ME
128GB Kingston CF card

I've settled on using ME with this machine because it boots up much faster than 98SE and it always shutdowns properly. 98 for whatever reason will just randomly sit at the shutting down screen.

Results:
3dmark2000 - 17070
3dmark2001 - 14181
3dmark2003 - 5315

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Reply 449 of 467, by pete8475

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supercordo wrote on 2024-02-23, 14:07:

Scores updated! Your 2K score was decent.

Cool!

I did a bit of video card overclocking. Default clockspeeds according to the Nvidia control panel are 400mhz core and 800mhz memory.

This Quadro card is rock stable with a 50mhz overclock on core and 100mhz on memory so here are the results with those settings:
3dmark2000 - 17182
3dmark2001 - 14676
3dmark2003 - 5770

From memory I think it's fairly stable with another 10-15mhz on either but these are the speeds I typically leave it at for regular use.

I don't think there's any more performance to be squeezed out with this motherboard but I would love to find an affordable Asus board to use this CPU and RAM in. Unfortunately the ebay prices are way too much these days though.

EDIT: BTW all these results are with the machine in it's normal full setup. I can pull out the Audigy and NIC if you think it'll up the results a bit and re-run 3dmark.

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Reply 450 of 467, by BitWrangler

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pete8475 wrote on 2024-02-23, 22:20:

but I would love to find an affordable Asus board to use this CPU and RAM in. Unfortunately the ebay prices are way too much these days though.

According to comments on the recent Core2 thread, they're hitting a die off point. So I don't know if it's wise to invest in one at any price. Even if you get it for free and it works now, you're gonna get emotionally invested in it and then pay the silly money for another one and have that die too. Famed "good boards" are all network effect and baader meinhof effect anyway, name recognition and giving it free rent in your head, need to discover the actual good ones for yourself.

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Reply 451 of 467, by pete8475

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-02-23, 23:18:
pete8475 wrote on 2024-02-23, 22:20:

but I would love to find an affordable Asus board to use this CPU and RAM in. Unfortunately the ebay prices are way too much these days though.

According to comments on the recent Core2 thread, they're hitting a die off point. So I don't know if it's wise to invest in one at any price. Even if you get it for free and it works now, you're gonna get emotionally invested in it and then pay the silly money for another one and have that die too. Famed "good boards" are all network effect and baader meinhof effect anyway, name recognition and giving it free rent in your head, need to discover the actual good ones for yourself.

Perhaps I should have said it this way instead, regardless of brand I would like a board with some overclocking options that would work with this cpu and ram.

Reply 452 of 467, by matrox

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BECH 99 AND 2001 wont work due... i dont know, maybe a win 7 thing.

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Intel Pentium 4 3.06 @ 3.7 ghz, quick OC just by touching fsb. 478 socket-prescott core 32 bit only.

(The Prescott microarchitecture was designed to support Intel 64, Intel's implementation of the AMD-developed x86-64 64-bit extensions to the x86 architecture, but the initial models shipped with their 64-bit capability disabled.)

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intel extreme graphics 2 - 96 mb of shared ram.
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Windows 7 sp1 x86 pro release 2011

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Reply 453 of 467, by PC@LIVE

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I managed to load one of those bench programs, which I had in other PCs, but in the Willy and others I could not load, it is the 3DBench, I tried unsuccessfully a previous version, then with the 2001 SE, it started and completed the installation.

To sum up it's about this PC:

MB ECS P4IBAS (478 with 3 SDRAMs)

CPU P4 Willamette 478 1700/256/400

VGA AGP Gigabyte GV-R955256T 256 MB

3X 512 MB PC133 Elpida chip

HD WD Caviar 307AA 30.7GB

This in summary of the system, I will make some changes later, but currently it is so.

The score obtained seems to me quite below average, but I could be wrong, maybe it's not so?!?

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AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 454 of 467, by matrox

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PC@LIVE wrote on 2024-03-03, 15:53:
I managed to load one of those bench programs, which I had in other PCs, but in the Willy and others I could not load, it is the […]
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I managed to load one of those bench programs, which I had in other PCs, but in the Willy and others I could not load, it is the 3DBench, I tried unsuccessfully a previous version, then with the 2001 SE, it started and completed the installation.

To sum up it's about this PC:

MB ECS P4IBAS (478 with 3 SDRAMs)

CPU P4 Willamette 478 1700/256/400

VGA AGP Gigabyte GV-R955256T 256 MB

3X 512 MB PC133 Elpida chip

HD WD Caviar 307AA 30.7GB

This in summary of the system, I will make some changes later, but currently it is so.

The score obtained seems to me quite below average, but I could be wrong, maybe it's not so?!?

I just found that opengl is not supported on win 7 just d3d, 2001 bench can just run on d3d mode and ogl test is skipped. on win xp, 2000, 9x are supported for full bench support.

Reply 455 of 467, by agent_x007

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Sadly, I didn't run 3DMark 2000...
CPU : Pentium Extreme Edition 965 @ 5100/425MHz
Cooling - Eisbaer 240 AIO with swapped radiator for 360x45mm + 3x Delta fan
MB : Asus Rampage Extreme
RAM : 4x4GB @ 566.7 MHz (DDR3-1134), 5-6-5-15-1 (tCAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tCR)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti (stock + blower "FE")

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CPU valid : https://valid.x86.fr/chgnjh

PS. Why no Gallatin ?
PGA 478
Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3,2GHz @ 3528/220MHz
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Reply 456 of 467, by PC@LIVE

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matrox wrote on 2024-03-04, 21:01:
PC@LIVE wrote on 2024-03-03, 15:53:
I managed to load one of those bench programs, which I had in other PCs, but in the Willy and others I could not load, it is the […]
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I managed to load one of those bench programs, which I had in other PCs, but in the Willy and others I could not load, it is the 3DBench, I tried unsuccessfully a previous version, then with the 2001 SE, it started and completed the installation.

To sum up it's about this PC:

MB ECS P4IBAS (478 with 3 SDRAMs)

CPU P4 Willamette 478 1700/256/400

VGA AGP Gigabyte GV-R955256T 256 MB

3X 512 MB PC133 Elpida chip

HD WD Caviar 307AA 30.7GB

This in summary of the system, I will make some changes later, but currently it is so.

The score obtained seems to me quite below average, but I could be wrong, maybe it's not so?!?

I just found that opengl is not supported on win 7 just d3d, 2001 bench can just run on d3d mode and ogl test is skipped. on win xp, 2000, 9x are supported for full bench support.

Ok Thank you very much, unfortunately at the moment I have Windows 7 loaded, later I could install an older version of Windows, and redo the benches, maybe get a different score, hopefully better.

AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 457 of 467, by PC@LIVE

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I finally managed to load the 3D Mark 2000, I ran the bench on the Willy 1700 PC, the score speaks for itself, consider that that PC has SDRAM, and is therefore a little slower than those with RDRAM or DDR .

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AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 458 of 467, by H3nrik V!

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agent_x007 wrote on 2024-03-05, 20:53:
PS. Why no Gallatin ? PGA 478 Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3,2GHz @ 3528/220MHz HD 3850 AGP 3DMark 01 SE Radeon HD 3850 (715-1818) […]
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PS. Why no Gallatin ?
PGA 478
Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3,2GHz @ 3528/220MHz
HD 3850 AGP
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I don't think there's any rules against Gallatins ... Except that I'm really jealous of ones who owns them 🤣

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 459 of 467, by agent_x007

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😉
LGA 775
Gallatin
Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3,46GHz @ 4009/308MHz
GTX 780 Ti
OS : Windows 7 SP1 (good bit slower than WinXP, but I didn't tested that..)

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