VOGONS


Reply 20 of 27, by rkurbatov

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

ebay and AliExpress suppliers sell lots of these PSUs, I was wondering to buy a new one. But seems like it should be better to buy an old one and test it carefully.

486: ECS UM486 VLB, 256kb cache, i486 DX2/66, 8MB RAM, Trident TGUI9440AGi VLB 1MB, Pro Audio Spectrum 16, FDD 3.5, ZIP 100 ATA
PII: Asus P2B, Pentium II 400MHz, 512MB RAM, Trident 9750 AGP 4MB, Voodoo2 SLI, MonsterSound MX300

Reply 21 of 27, by Shponglefan

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
rkurbatov wrote on 2024-01-25, 21:10:

ebay and AliExpress suppliers sell lots of these PSUs, I was wondering to buy a new one. But seems like it should be better to buy an old one and test it carefully.

Definitely stay away from those "new" PSUs from Ebay and Aliexpress.

I've made the mistake of buying a couple from different Ebay sellers. One turned out to be a fake Antec PSU, the other one off-brand, but clearly cheaply made junk.

I now only buy old power supplies where I am 100% certain it's an authentic unit.

Pentium 4 Multi-OS Build
486 DX4-100 with 6 sound cards
486 DX-33 with 5 sound cards

Reply 22 of 27, by rkurbatov

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
Shponglefan wrote on 2024-01-25, 21:32:

I now only buy old power supplies where I am 100% certain it's an authentic unit.

They are mostly Authentic Taiwanese replicas of early 1990s 😀

Though I clearly see that Taiwan is not China on that matter, 🤣.

486: ECS UM486 VLB, 256kb cache, i486 DX2/66, 8MB RAM, Trident TGUI9440AGi VLB 1MB, Pro Audio Spectrum 16, FDD 3.5, ZIP 100 ATA
PII: Asus P2B, Pentium II 400MHz, 512MB RAM, Trident 9750 AGP 4MB, Voodoo2 SLI, MonsterSound MX300

Reply 23 of 27, by DAVE86

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

If anyone feels like gambling or looking for a real Antec PP-xxxV this is how the genuine label and internals should look like.
file.php?mode=view&id=183795
file.php?mode=view&id=183796
file.php?mode=view&id=183797

This is only valid for the Chanel Well CWT9xxyyy models. Even brought brand new it will have bad capacitors though! A decade ago there were Antec AT units with Topower and SPI/FSP internals also.
If seller has photos that allow to peek into the vent grill then one can almost verify the internals.

Attachments

  • DSCF2539.jpg
    Filename
    DSCF2539.jpg
    File size
    185.2 KiB
    Views
    225 views
    File license
    Public domain
  • DSCF2536.jpg
    Filename
    DSCF2536.jpg
    File size
    236.87 KiB
    Views
    225 views
    File license
    Public domain
  • DSCF2529.jpg
    Filename
    DSCF2529.jpg
    File size
    188 KiB
    Views
    225 views
    File license
    Public domain

Reply 24 of 27, by rkurbatov

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

Is caps the only problem of old PSUs? Will it be safer to recap them all?

486: ECS UM486 VLB, 256kb cache, i486 DX2/66, 8MB RAM, Trident TGUI9440AGi VLB 1MB, Pro Audio Spectrum 16, FDD 3.5, ZIP 100 ATA
PII: Asus P2B, Pentium II 400MHz, 512MB RAM, Trident 9750 AGP 4MB, Voodoo2 SLI, MonsterSound MX300

Reply 25 of 27, by rasz_pl

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

What other problems were you expecting? After all those PSUs did work just fine back in the day 😀 Now they need all secondary caps and some small ones in the middle. Big expensive primary caps are almost never (99.999) degraded.

Open Source AT&T Globalyst/NCR/FIC 486-GAC-2 proprietary Cache Module reproduction

Reply 26 of 27, by W.x.

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
Runar77 wrote on 2024-01-23, 08:40:
giantclam wrote on 2024-01-23, 00:39:

What mainboard is it? A possible scenario is a tantalum cap has failed on the 5volt rail, which took the PSU beyond it's rating and kaboom....it failed before the tant. exploded....and that capacitor is still shorted on the mainboard (hence no boot and squeaky beep) ~ you would need remove cards/cpu/ram and check the resistance of the 5volt rails.

It's a Soyo 025N mainboard. I have been offered some assistance from a guy I know. I can ask him to check this. Thanks.

always test new PSUs on cheaper motherboard, if you don't have some kind of PSU tester.
It's best to keep some dead motherboard for that, and put some dead CPU, so it draws some power. don't try with expensive socket 3 motherboards. 😀

Reply 27 of 27, by Runar77

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
W.x. wrote on 2024-01-26, 19:29:

always test new PSUs on cheaper motherboard, if you don't have some kind of PSU tester.
It's best to keep some dead motherboard for that, and put some dead CPU, so it draws some power. don't try with expensive socket 3 motherboards. 😀

It was the only motherboard I had, but I've learned my lesson.

The motherboard does seem to work again, at least it posts to the no keyboard-message. Just waiting for an AT keyboard so I can test it some more.