ASRock has one. Probably ECS too.

My friend has one of those asrock ones I think. He likes it a lot

PD2JK wrote on 2024-02-21, 13:42:

ASRock has one. Probably ECS too.

Sphere478 wrote on 2024-02-21, 13:56:

My friend has one of those asrock ones I think. He likes it a lot

Thanks for tip ASRock 775Dual-VSTA

I have a FOXCONN 915 775 P4 board that has a PCI-E and an AGP slot. It's the FOXCONN 915PL7AE-8S.

Into this time I meaned on 99% that I will build older system with PIII-S for AGP and newer C2Q/i7 for PCIe.

And I found info that exist hybrid variants.
So I start thinking what is better build.
Two systems, older with only AGP, and newer with only PCIe.
Or one hybrid system with both slots AGP and PCIe.

Any pros and cons on either side?

the agp isn't real, just so you know that. it's a suped up pci slot basically. So the agp card will be slower than normal sometimes.

There were a few variations of the fake agp slots, some were better than others. I don't know much more. I think there is a wiki somewhere that talks about the various fake agp implementations.

basically if the mobo has agp and pcie, the agp is fake. But it does work usually.

Or go AMD, socket 939. The 939Dual-SATA2 and 939Dual-VSTA.

But I think the AGP slot is also bridged, via PCIe, so maybe you'll get 'AGP 8x' performance. Some point in the future I'll benchmark my 939Dual-VSTA board with AGP Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3. Still have to find the PCIe 3850 counterpart.
I also have the AM2CPU board with an X2 6400+. That'll be fun. 😉

So for most modern board with AGP and PCIe I must go with AMD Phenom? Not good alternative for example for Q9650 and DDR2/3?

JosefHrib wrote on 2024-03-05, 11:14:

So for most modern board with AGP and PCIe I must go with AMD Phenom? Not good alternative for example for Q9650 and DDR2/3?

Fastest platform is either intel:
Asrock 4CoreDual-SATA2
QX9650
667mhz ddr2

Amd:
Asrock ALiveDual-eSATA2
Phenom x4 970
1066mhz ddr2

They are basically equal in speed when both are overclocked to ~4ghz. Intel cant do ram speed over 533 / 667mhz and Pcie is 4x. Amd NF3 doesn't work well in newer OS than XP.

I have both 939Dual-Sata2 and 4CoreDual-Sata2
Well... they are not as versatile as you could imagine.
I wanted to use them as a "universal" test system... but it turns out that the 939Dual-Sata2 is just hit or miss with some cards. Some just won't POST while being 100% functional on other systems.
So not great if i can't trust my test system....
Otherwise it's not awful, just ok.

The 4CoreDual-Sata2 is unstable for me. Maybe just my board. Maybe the fact that i'm using a high TDP 3.8Ghz P4 Prescott on it. Still investigating.

But as test platform, they are definitely not great in my opinion.